Newborn puppy been sold to friend

[Foxgloves123]

Aibu to ask her why she has just bought a puppy this young?! This is a friend on Facebook (a person I used to know well but now we just keep in touch occasionally). The puppy looks like it’s still blind and it’s absolutely tiny. Being held in pics by her toddler.

I believe it’s the law to not allow a puppy home until 8 weeks? Or at the very least 6 weeks if weaned from the mum. I don’t know the circumstances of why they have this puppy so young (I.e it is possible the mother dog may have died for all I know) but it seems they have obtained this puppy by a very irresponsible breeder?

I don’t want to be nosey but as a dog owner I did my research and would never have bought a puppy from a breeder who let it go so small

If the puppies eyes are closed it might not even be able to eliminate on its own, and she needs to know how to do that. Its a horrible way for them to die.

Definitely ask her what’s going on. If you’re worried about upsetting her - well she’ll be more upset when it dies or grows up with massive health/behavioural problems and they can’t keep it.

That’s fair enough, sorry to hear of the outcome, losing a beloved pet is never easy at any age . Im trying to say that I think some people on this thread are trying to excuse this and I can’t see a situation in this day and age where this would be okay, but understand times have changed. X

I never understand these kind of posts. If we all turned a blind eye and minded our own business to this kind of thing and other cruel/poor behaviours the world would be a much poorer and even more miserable place.

I would also question why posters who do this give out such defensive answers.

We work WITH people not against them to resolve the matter.

Are you with an organisation, OP?

Has the op done anything about her concerns yet?

She said she has sent a message of inquiry to her friend. I don’t think it’s enough personally OP, there is no situation in which this could be okay unless your friend has experience in raising a puppy. Even if the mother XYZ or the puppy XYZ. Or even if they puppy was taken round to the house for a visit, none of these suggestions are acceptable. It needs to be reported. You can do so anonymously.

Ask her?!

Would a reputable breeder in any circumstances hand over a newborn douppy to a novice owner? In no situation that would be OK imo. I have hand reared dkittens and 2 dpuppies... As a legitimate, registered fosterer.. How about asking your friend how the night feeds are going?

And this is why it makes me mad that people with zero experience and zero understanding let their dog have puppies (like it's the easiest thing in the world)

You need to find out and report. No one can just get hold of a puppy unless it's dodgy. Waiting lists galore for breeders or you get a dog from the rescue.

I'd be saying something like Jesus christ, what on earth has happened to it's mum - and let the convo go from there. If she's your friend, I wouldn't hold back personally.

Please, please report this and follow up. This puppy will likely die otherwise

^Neither is being a witness to a crime- turn a blind eye innit. Nothing to do with me! Jesus…..

I’d definitely enquire the puppy will die if it still needs mothers milk or did mum die, so the owner is making a quick buck? Or maybe your friend has no idea about how old the pup is or when it may leave it’s mother. It’s an animal welfare issue, unless you condone animal suffering why wouldn’t you get involved.

If she really has been sold a pup still with eyes closed and has it at home away from the mum you need to find out where it came from and report the breeder to the council.

Proper breeders are licensed and work tirelessly to produce strong and healthy pups and don't sell under eight weeks as it's against the law in England.

Sick to the back teeth of backyard breeders flouting the law, putting animals in danger, and bringing a bad name to experienced and educated breeders.

Don't just sit back and do nothing. If nothing bad is going on then everything will be fine but if you can save even one bitch from a crap breeder then it will be worth it.

Puppies who don't get taught by their mother everything they need to know can end up being very dangerous dogs with no bite inhibition and all kinds of problems (if they survive). It's definitely not something I would take on and I have had dogs since childhood

hi all
I have twin boys who are 23 month old (corrected 21 months old).
my boys they don’t talk at all, not even mama or dada.
they don’t point or respond to their names.
they don’t have any sensory issues. They eat play and sleep well.
it’s just that they don’t understand what we say, not even a yes or no.
im really really worried and stressed. I feel it’s because of me since they were born prematurely (29 weeks)and I couldn’t hold them longer in my tummy.

my boys had 3 hearing tests
1st was when they were 4 months old and it came out good
2nd when they were 18 months old but couldn’t complete tests since they had fluids in both their ears
3rd when they were 20 months old and one of my twin completed 70% test successfully, rest the audiologist said he still has fluid in one ear so she couldn’t complete the whole test.
my other twin didn’t co-operate at all so didn’t do the test.
anyway we have booked another hearing test in 2 months.

but I’m sure my boys can hear perfectly fine, since they can hear the sounds and come running to see where it’s coming from.

im so worried cos they don’t talk, don’t respond to their names, they don’t understand simple words.
we have also been to paediatrician he said he wouldn’t worry until they are 2.
but they are almost 21-22 month old now and I see no improvements.

can someone please guide me or share me their experiences?
i feel so low all the time and keep blaming myself for everything that’s happening to them.
i feel I can’t interact with them at all.

You need to start your own thread x

I’d be saying something like “wow how tiny how old is he” and taking it from there. Even if it’s legit it seems unlikely that someone with no/little experience of puppies would be hand rearing

Not just feeding; neonates need stimulating to wee and poo too.

Good point about behavioural problems. All the more reason an inexperienced owner would not be well suited to rearing and keeping an orphan pup. Let alone one with a small child!

I'd comment "oh wow he looks tiny!" And see what she says. What breed is it? I often think small dog pups look so young.

Please, please report this and follow up. This puppy will likely die otherwise

I'm thinking about poor mum as well. Our former breeding machine is such a bright, happy, loving dog now. She's a gem. When we got her she was scared of everything, had clearly barely been outside before. She's a 'desirable breed' but has an outward turn on one eye, so I guess they figured breeding was all she was good for.

Just popping back to the thread this morning to see whether @Foxgloves123 has any updates. Really really hoping the tiny pup survived the night.

OP, it's a race against the clock now to keep this pup alive, if it's as young as it seems. If you don't hear back from the woman in question directly, is there any way you can make 'light' enquiries via mutual acquaintances, for example? Or find an excuse to knock on her door? If I were you I'd report to RSPCA by end of day.

Any update?

We’d love an update @Foxgloves123