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Food places and cafes not accepting cash

303 replies

Annoyedtiger · 28/06/2022 21:05

Yes I understand covid and I normally always pay with my card but today I accidentally left it at home and I went to three cafes including Cafe Nero which wouldn’t take my cash.

We know covid is airborne and everything is mostly back to normal.

AIBU to think everywhere should be tasking cash now?

OP posts:
CounsellorTroi · 29/06/2022 06:24

Goodskin46 · 29/06/2022 06:15

Cards can get stolen, or lost, or you can forget your pin code. I could ask a friend/family for some money while waiting for my new card, but I can't ask for their own bank card. So if cash doesn't work you're screwed.

i have no idea how typical I am, I am 46. I could no more forget my PIN than my date of birth I have had the same sort code account number and PIN since I was 14, those numbers are indelibley imprinted on my brain.

I forgot my M & S credit card pin. The account is locked. It’s such a palaver getting it unlocked and a new pin that I haven’t bothered and now only use it for online purchases.

DockOTheBay · 29/06/2022 06:27

Simonjt · 28/06/2022 21:17

We went to Warwick castle recently, they didn’t take cash, imagine how many school trips they host, imagine how much they are losing out on now those children can’t buy things in the gift shop.

Marwell Zoo is the same. I took my Brownies group there and they had all brought money for the shop. I had to pay for it all in my card and they gave me the cash. Such a bloody pain and then I had to go and back the cash.

detectora · 29/06/2022 06:42

Cash needs to be protected for the sake of the elderly.

It’s all great for those pensioners people above have mentioned, who use iPads and iPhones and bank cards, but many don’t. My grandparents are in their 90s, have no devices and travel into town to visit a bank branch in order to take cash out, rather than use a bank card. They don’t have the technology to keep an eye on their accounts online, which is essential if you use cards.

Bumtum126 · 29/06/2022 07:02

How do they get the cash out and keep an eye on the account now ?

detectora · 29/06/2022 07:09

Bumtum126 · 29/06/2022 07:02

How do they get the cash out and keep an eye on the account now ?

They get cash out and do any transfers at a branch. There is no need to keep an eye on accounts between visits they know exactly what’s in their account and cards aren’t being used anywhere so there is very little chance of fraud. Apparently there are massive queues when they go in the mornings so they aren’t the only ones doing this!

ememem84 · 29/06/2022 07:14

PuzzledObserver · 28/06/2022 22:08

Two contradictory thoughts about this.

  1. Does the concept of “legal tender” have any relevance here? I’ve got a vague recollection that retailers are obliged to accept payment in the coin of the realm up to certain limits - I do t know what they are, but it was something like, if a payment was up to £5 you could pay it in 1p pieces and the retailer was obliged to accept it, but if it was over over £5 then they weren’t.

2). We bought something for three quid plus a few pence in a small independent chemist. I was dithering over card or cash, and the owner said he preferred cash as card payments cost him money. That surprised me, as I was under the impression it cost businesses a lot to process cash. But I was happy to use cash - I’m of an age where using a card for small amounts feels wrong. I was buying a postcard the other day - it was 45p, and when I saw the “card only” sign, I obviously had to buy some fudge to get the transaction size up.

Haven’t read the full thread yet. So apologies if this has been said already but I believe legal tender only applies to the repayment of debt.

soulinablackberrypie · 29/06/2022 07:17

There's at least one café in my town that only takes cash. I've been caught out by that recently.

Badgerandfox227 · 29/06/2022 07:23

I know a couple of people who work in cash in hand businesses, declare a fraction of what they earn, but pay cash for everything, so I think this move is a good thing. Plus much easier for businesses to balance the books etc.

JuneJubilee · 29/06/2022 07:37

Tinktravels · 28/06/2022 21:19

I have this so much! I only really use cash and it does my head in
The woman in the petrol garage near me always puts a globe on before touching cash 🤦

SO?

cash is filthy, why shouldn't she try to prevent getting sick?

Bumtum126 · 29/06/2022 07:45

detectora · 29/06/2022 07:09

They get cash out and do any transfers at a branch. There is no need to keep an eye on accounts between visits they know exactly what’s in their account and cards aren’t being used anywhere so there is very little chance of fraud. Apparently there are massive queues when they go in the mornings so they aren’t the only ones doing this!

The cards are not being used anywhere? Do they not use a card to get money out over the counter?
I can imagine there are massive queues although I suspect that's to do with banks shutting huge amounts of branches.
This situation is only going one way with cash , it won't go completely but less and less will carry it.

AngelinaFibres · 29/06/2022 07:48

CounsellorTroi · 29/06/2022 06:19

What about some public toilets that require a coin/supermarket trolleys? I know you can get tokens for the trolleys but they don’t always work.

I bought some books from a charity shop with cash the other day.

Many toilets in London take card payments for the 20p. Paddington Station and the toilets in Hyde Park both only card for a wee wee.

AngelinaFibres · 29/06/2022 07:51

JuneJubilee · 29/06/2022 07:37

SO?

cash is filthy, why shouldn't she try to prevent getting sick?

I bet there are more types of excrement on a coin that's been in circulation for 5 years than there is on a public toilet seat. Pop one on a petri dish and see what grows.

CableTidy · 29/06/2022 07:52

So many banks are closing branches that it came become a slog for businesses to actually bank cash at the end of the night. Card payments are much simpler in that regard. I'm not saying it's perfect but banking cash can be a pain in the bum

TarasHarp55 · 29/06/2022 07:56

A petrol station I sometimes use couldn't sell any petrol because their machine had broke down. Some people probably ran out of petrol that day, they had a long way to go to find the next one.

AngelinaFibres · 29/06/2022 07:58

Bumtum126 · 29/06/2022 07:02

How do they get the cash out and keep an eye on the account now ?

They use.....a card 😂

JuneJubilee · 29/06/2022 08:04

GettingEnoughMoonshine · 28/06/2022 22:41

How daft to turn down business like that.
If I find out a business doesn't accept cash, I stop shopping there even if I have my card. For a mixture kf reasons really. On principle, I think they're too stupid to run a business anyway. Supporting inequality (poorer people are more likely to take cash out, so a bill doesn't come and take the money they need for food/ petrol to work etc. Children. The elderly.) Some people simply prefer cash, I don't like the way certain businesses try to bully people into a cashless society.

You think they're too stupid (to run a business)?

oh the irony

LittleBearPad · 29/06/2022 08:09

Marty13 · 29/06/2022 02:31

I want to be able to use both cash and card because :


  • Sometimes I have cash and no money on my account, and sometimes it's the other way around. Sometimes I've paid part in cash and part by card.

  • I don't love the idea of my banker knowing what I buy or where I go for groceries. I'm sure he doesn't care - though he might go through it when I apply for a loan - but regardless it's my private life. Same if I have to show my bank statements (for instance, if I was applying for a visa).

  • Making cash disappear will make the inflation worse. Printing free money is not so hard but printing free digital money will be a lot easier. You think it's bad now ? Just wait till cash disappears.

  • Cards can get stolen, or lost, or you can forget your pin code. I could ask a friend/family for some money while waiting for my new card, but I can't ask for their own bank card. So if cash doesn't work you're screwed.

  • I don't want to have payment methods on my phone. I don't see them secure enough. If my phone gets stolen, or hacked, or if my young kids start playing with it, I could lose a lot of money in any number of ways.


So I'm sorry if cash inconveniences stores - though they've somehow managed until now so not sure what's changed - but I'll take my business where both cash and card are accepted. Thankfully I live in a country where that isn't an issue (in fact you typically pay less if you pay cash).

Making cash disappear will make the inflation worse. Printing free money is not so hard but printing free digital money will be a lot easier. You think it's bad now ? Just wait till cash disappears.

The vast majority of money is created digitally. You don’t think when the Bank of England does quantitative easing they print millions of pounds and pay it in over the counter! Printing physical cash is a tiny proportion of new money

youlightupmyday · 29/06/2022 08:09

There is a faint scent of luddite on here and i understand it as change is always tricky. My brother's pub went cashless pre Covid and the professors at the University college next door wrote a long letter, signed by many, stating that he had lost their business, on principle. There are all back now, happy.

Times evolve, as do solutions. Needs, must etc

I was late to the card on phone party, and love it for simply being so easy ( and contactless!). I have no wallet. Drivers license and cash card are my everyday bag, JIC.

dottiedodah · 29/06/2022 08:15

Seems to be the way now.A little cafe in the New forest has a screen that you press your card against! So no contact at all with machine even .Covid has helped things along ,but this has been in the pipeline for some time now . A cashless society beckons!

EnjoyingTheSilence · 29/06/2022 08:17

I don’t like the idea of card/bank payments only. Once everything is automated, whoever is in charge can control who has access. Like in Handmaids Tale, yes I know that is fiction and I’m not saying that’s going to happen (though looking at America right now it is very scary)

riesenrad · 29/06/2022 08:18

At this point in time it’s more complex to withdraw money from a bank than it is to use a card to pay for something. Keeping track of the balance is really the only stumbling block if someone isn’t able to use a smartphone/computer to access online banking

I agree that it's more faff to go into a bank. You don't need online banking to keep track though, you can ask the bank to give you a mini-statement each time you go in, so if you only use cash, you can get one each time you withdraw cash.

Agree with the pp who said it's harder for someone to control their own money if they live with someone who is financially abusive. Although it might work the other way, you can open a secret account and withdraw money from it to spend (assuming you can fund the account in some way).

balalake · 29/06/2022 08:18

I want cash to remain, mainly as I think it is a competition of sorts for banks, who otherwise would hike up charges to business. The other reasons given elsewhere on this thread are equally valid.

However, with the closure or limited hours of so many banks, and the general uselessness in my experience of cash collection security companies, I can understand why some businesses do not want the expense or hassle of accepting and paying in cash. I understand in the Netherlands the move away from cash is partly to reduce robberies.

JuneJubilee · 29/06/2022 08:23

antelopevalley · 29/06/2022 01:29

I know a few places as well that only take cash. One is a very popular Greek bakery with absolutely delicious homemade food.

I'd be willing to exchange actual cash for fresh baklava!!

Zoeslatesttrope · 29/06/2022 08:26

Luredbyapomegranate · 28/06/2022 21:55

@UncaDonald

Because removing cash cuts an (often vulnerable) large section of the population off from mainstream society - the elderly, street homeless, people without addresses (hidden homeless, refugees)also people who struggle to access services due to mental or physical ill health - if you rely on neighbours to pick up shopping or medicine , you don’t necessarily want to give them your bank card.

The market is supposed to serve society, not the other way round. Businesses get tax breaks to help them, and in return for that we require them to provide services that are sometimes more inclusive that market forces would dictate.

I believe the plan to totally phase out cheques has been cancelled and I hope cash will be protected.

Also, read the Handmaid’s tale. Hard cash disappearing does limit your freedom. A card is oh so stoppable..

My first thought was street homeless.

I'm autistic and was able to manage my money much better when it wasn't virtual.

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