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To think serving alcohol at a school fayre seems off

257 replies

Mummy0b · 24/06/2022 14:21

Just that really, it seems off to me.
Not against drinking in any way, i actually work in a bar (possibly why it seems more of a concern to me) but theres a time and a place for drinking and a school fayre doesnt seem like one of them. Ive witnessed so many happy, family occasions descend into utter chaos because of excess alcohol consumption and it seems like a school fayre would do fine without a bar.
Additionally, i know many people who struggle with alcohol addiction and i dont think they would expect to be confronted with that temptation at a school event
So AIBU to think people could go without a drink at a school fayre?

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orwellwasright · 24/06/2022 15:06

I agree. I don't think alcohol at a school event is great role modelling for children

What's it role modelling that's negative? That adults can legally drink in this country? Tbh I suspect they're already worked that out.

It's hardly teachers knocking back tequila slammers at 9am during collective worship.

It's non-working adults having a drink at a summer party.

TeenPlusCat · 24/06/2022 15:09

We used to have one, I wasn't keen. Then we got a new HT who said no.

I think it is unnecessary to 'normalise' drinking in the afternoon for the children, plus one might hope the parents will be spending time with their children at a school fair.

Hullabaloo31 · 24/06/2022 15:10

Ours doesn't, but it wouldn't bother me. Don't have to have it if you don't want to.

Tandoorimixedgrill · 24/06/2022 15:11

SmartCarDriver · 24/06/2022 14:57

Why is it always that people that don't like alcohol always come out with the narrative "surely they can manage an afternoon without alcohol"!

I'm sure they can manage loads of afternoons without alcohol, the school fairs aren't every afternoon are they?

Stupid bloody comment that's trotted out so much!

Its not that we “don’t like alcohol” it’s that we can empathise with the impact it could have on children attending (particularly those who know there parents drink to excess) if their parent drinks too much and the anxiety that would be present even if they don’t.

For what it’s wort pI have also been heavily involved in fund raising. We decided it was worth not making the extra on the bar at events where children attend, in the same way that we decided that we would include games that made no money so that children who didn’t have the financial means could take part.

We did separate adult socials where everyone was free to get thoroughly plastered, they were a lot of fun too.

MasterBeth · 24/06/2022 15:17

Mangogogogo · 24/06/2022 14:53

Bizarre isn’t it? Considering that is the original way it was spelled.

but imagine being outraged over that!

But now is now.

"Fayre" is twee, cloying and two hundrde years out of date. It's a fair or a fete.

MintLampShade · 24/06/2022 15:18

I think it's fine. I went to parent consultation last week and they had Prosecco 😂🤷🏼‍♀️ Ok, they certainly didn't have enough to get pissed but the Head was walking around with a bottle asking if anyone wanted a refill. I did 😅

NippyWoowoo · 24/06/2022 15:19

TeenPlusCat · 24/06/2022 15:09

We used to have one, I wasn't keen. Then we got a new HT who said no.

I think it is unnecessary to 'normalise' drinking in the afternoon for the children, plus one might hope the parents will be spending time with their children at a school fair.

How does having wine in a glass stop parents spending time with children? Do they spend more time with them if the glass contains lemonade?

worraliberty · 24/06/2022 15:20

Surely most people can manage an afternoon out with their kids without a drink, no?

Of course they can, just as I'm sure everyone can manage without any kind of refreshments apart from possibly water.

Surely you can see it's not about necessity though?

The vast majority of adult drinkers are perfectly capable of drinking responsibly.

1000Pieces · 24/06/2022 15:21

Tandoorimixedgrill · 24/06/2022 15:11

Its not that we “don’t like alcohol” it’s that we can empathise with the impact it could have on children attending (particularly those who know there parents drink to excess) if their parent drinks too much and the anxiety that would be present even if they don’t.

For what it’s wort pI have also been heavily involved in fund raising. We decided it was worth not making the extra on the bar at events where children attend, in the same way that we decided that we would include games that made no money so that children who didn’t have the financial means could take part.

We did separate adult socials where everyone was free to get thoroughly plastered, they were a lot of fun too.

You know they don't do bag searches at the school fair - I mean fayre - right?

Anyone who is alcohol dependent can take their own miniatures or cans in. Serving some pimms or whatever to make some extra cash for the school isn't going to make things ok, or not ok, for the children of alcoholics.

Moancup · 24/06/2022 15:21

My godchildren’s school cuts to the chase and has a beer festival as a summer fundraiser. I love it!

FemmeNatal · 24/06/2022 15:21

Tandoorimixedgrill · 24/06/2022 14:36

As the child of an alcoholic I think that school events aren’t the place for alcohol.

For a lot of children school will be their only alcohol free safe space. As a child the anxiety that attending a school event and realising there is would be alcohol available would have been awful. Statically speaking there will be 2 or 3 children in each class who’s parents have a problem with alcohol so it effects more children than you might think.

Where next though? No cake stalls because of the obesity crisis? No tombola because of gambling addiction?

Alcoholics have already wrecked theirs and their family’s lives, let’s not let them spoil any more.

Justwanttobebythesea · 24/06/2022 15:22

1000Pieces · 24/06/2022 14:43

Nay, sirrah, methinks it right fitting for the maidens to have their foaming tankards in hand whilst they romp at thayre fayre.

It be true methinks, fair maidens and noble sires do need their thirsts quenched after an afternoon of watching the fire-eaters, snake charmers and jousting competitions down at the fayre.

FemmeNatal · 24/06/2022 15:24

Mummy0b · 24/06/2022 14:52

@tandoorimixedgrill also the child of an alcoholic and i would have felt exactly the same.

For what its worth, i have actually volunteered to help set up and always give whatever the pta are asking for, very much appreciate everything they do for the school, not critising at all and certainly not judging.

I totally agree with the pp who said its feeding that alcohol culture, i dont think its cute when kids say their mummys favourite drink is wine, thats not cute.

Surely most people can manage an afternoon out with their kids without a drink, no?

If only the censorious busybodies could manage one out without pissing on everyone else’s chips to parade their virtue too.

SmartCarDriver · 24/06/2022 15:24

@Tandoorimixedgrill it's possible to buy alcohol l n a corner shop, it didn't stop my alcoholic brother from not drinking alcohol because the fair didn't sell it.

An alcoholic will find alcohol wherever!

Chocolatefreak · 24/06/2022 15:25

In France and Switzerland alcohol is always available at state school fetes. The local mayor sometimes provides it for free! Every adult who wants has a glass or two and no-one gets out of hand. It all seems very civilised and completely appropriate. Children can see adults drinking alcohol in moderation and not getting trashed and abusive, which is a good model.

BigWoollyJumpers · 24/06/2022 15:29

OnceAgainWithFeeling · 24/06/2022 14:25

I’ve chaired a PTA for 8 years and we’ve never had booze at events.

It’s not necessary.

Really? We make most of our money from alcohol during summer fairs, xmas fairs, play intervals and quiz nights.

Gusfringrules · 24/06/2022 15:31

The fact it's spelt fayre would drive me to drink!

Madamecastafiore · 24/06/2022 15:31

Jesus we were all bemoaning the lack of alcohol at sports day yesterday.

Why should everyone suffer because a few people can't handle their drink or are addicts?

BobBobBobbing · 24/06/2022 15:32

Wouldn't bother me, but growing up my junior school had a proper fully kitted out bar in the basement which doubled as the girls cloakroom so I might have a slightly skewed idea of what is normal Grin

It always did a roaring trade at PTA events. The highlight for the kids was being allowed to stay on the bouncy castle as they let all the air out of it and collapsed in on us. The 80s were fun...

notangelinajolie · 24/06/2022 15:32

We must live in a very boozy school catchment.

After 3 kids and endless primary school summer fayres I would say the beer tent was the most popular attraction. And at the Christmas production mulled wine and mince pies were always handed out.

And then moving onto secondary school I remember the headmaster at DD3's school handing out wine at parents evening.

BowiesJumper · 24/06/2022 15:32

I had a pimms at the school fete, and lovey it was too. It’s just another way to make money, absolutely nobody was propping up the bar or getting pissed as far as I could see.

Dancingwithhyenas · 24/06/2022 15:32

Fairly normal, not a big deal to me personally.

Applesandroses · 24/06/2022 15:33

If its a fayre it has to have alcohol its traditional

If its a fair it doesn't

Change the name....

A580Hojas · 24/06/2022 15:34

I love alcohol Grin but I completely agree with you. I always hated to see booze being flogged at our school fairs and daytime events which were primarily for the children. Fair enough at evening fund raisers (pub quiz and so on) but not at 1pm on a Saturday afternoon. I find it tacky.

SmartCarDriver · 24/06/2022 15:34

Madamecastafiore · 24/06/2022 15:31

Jesus we were all bemoaning the lack of alcohol at sports day yesterday.

Why should everyone suffer because a few people can't handle their drink or are addicts?

Exactly!!

Should they ban the burger can due to obesity issues?