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Can my ex record phone calls he has with me and our child without consent?

16 replies

Saerz · 24/06/2022 00:33

It doesn't bother me that he's done it, It's that he does it every single time and constantly reminds me of it that bothers me.
Like I feel like we will never be able to speak without him recording us.
Im sick of the drama and him wanting to argue over everything. Is this even allowed?

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TimeForTeaAndG · 24/06/2022 00:36

Don't speak to him. Keep everything to messages/emails. If it's calls to his DC then let them answer the phone when you see it's his number.

What does he do with the recordings?

ThinWomansBrain · 24/06/2022 00:48

Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000 (RIPA), recording conversations without consent in the UK is legal provided the recording is done for personal use; this includes telephone conversations.

Aussiegirl123456 · 24/06/2022 00:54

Yes he can record you. He doesn’t need your consent.
Is he trying to provoke you and record a reaction to later use against you? Only as you said you’re tired of arguing with him. What a previous poster suggested about keeping communication in writing would be beneficial to you both as you’re able to both refer back to it if need be.

Thethuthinang · 24/06/2022 05:14

He doesn't have the skill to selectively edit the audio track, does he? If he does, you might want to consider making your own recording.

TomPinch · 24/06/2022 05:29

Aside from all the other issues, it will depend on what jurisdiction you live in.

KalvinPhillips23 · 24/06/2022 05:43

Aussiegirl123456 · 24/06/2022 00:54

Yes he can record you. He doesn’t need your consent.
Is he trying to provoke you and record a reaction to later use against you? Only as you said you’re tired of arguing with him. What a previous poster suggested about keeping communication in writing would be beneficial to you both as you’re able to both refer back to it if need be.

Yes he does need consent

Meraas · 24/06/2022 05:54

Take back your power and limit all comms to email. Create an email address just for this purpose. Or brief, factual texts, at the most.

Don’t give him the satisfaction of allowing him to record you.

mumda · 24/06/2022 06:20

He would have to have them transcribed to use in family court rather than submit recordings.

SandyWedges · 24/06/2022 06:21

Stop phoning him unless it's an emergency?

Cervinia · 24/06/2022 06:24

I agree with the email only now. Grey rock, don’t engage, put child on phone on loud speaker, have a separate phone PAYG phone for him to call DD on only and block him on yours.

PonyPatter44 · 24/06/2022 06:57

The simple answer is to just stop speaking to him, as others have said. How old is your child?

bumblingbovine49 · 24/06/2022 07:15

I love the suggestion to not speak to him an to and keep all communication via messaging and email. Surely that is just a different way of recording a conversation!

Op he is winding you up by reminding you that he is recording all.calls, it is an attempt to assert power over you but the act of recording the call itself is no different to keeping all your emails and texts really. I'd just record all the calls right back and say as much to him

If it is just too annoying to have him wind you up then of course keep to written conversation only but it seems convenient to you. If a phone call is more convenient to you for whatever reason then use that and record it yourself as well. The outcome is the same but you claim back the power he is trying to have over you

JennyForeigner · 24/06/2022 08:13

Agree it's not technically illegal, but is bullying and possibly, if he tells you you cannot escape the calls and that they will expose you in some way, harassment. It's just about acceptable to record calls with social workers and so on as they are deemed to legally accept the possibility in line with the serious nature of the professional conversations they will hold with you. This is different.

Don't speak to him on the phone except to pass the phone to your child. Tell him clearly and reasonably why. 'I do not wish to be recorded, or to have you say that you are recording me for a purpose I do not understand and to which I have not consented. I am asking you to stop. If you prefer, I can send you a letter to express that I have asked that you stop. I am committed to positive and supportive co-parenting, and until such time as you are able to act in a manner contingent with this, will use text messages and emails as a primary form of communication. Thank you.'

He can't force you to play. He will try to imply you are doing something wrong, but it isn't going to impress anyone.

Aussiegirl123456 · 27/06/2022 05:36

KalvinPhillips23 · 24/06/2022 05:43

Yes he does need consent

No, he doesn’t need consent. He doesn’t even have to advise he is recording. Please, you really do need to be cautious about spreading false information.

Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act (2000) states recording conversations without consent in the UK is legal.

Cocowatermelon · 27/06/2022 05:50

Almost anyone with an internet connection and a computer could learn to do basic edit of audio files in about 20minutes. Editing them in a way that is undetectable is something else though.

Cherrysoup · 27/06/2022 06:48

Are the phone calls court ordered?

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