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Something not belonging to me was stolen, and it is for me to contact the police?

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Kerrrmieee · 23/06/2022 19:44

And yes, I think the company think I have stolen their boxed items.

In short, I worked for a company for 1 month from home. The hours were not going to be sustainable and the line of work was not as expected.

I was provided with a laptop, a monitor and a headset.

These have been packaged up since April waiting to be picked up. 2 collections didn't happen. I waited in from 8-6pm both times.
The day of the 3rd collection - last week. I called and asked for an estimated collection time. I was told between 12 and 2pm.
I had an appointment with a consultant gp at 4pm, something that I was not going to cancel. Messaged the manager with pictures of where I'd left item in safe place to be collected.

Came home, item had been collected.

Although now the company are saying it has been stolen and that I should report to the police for a crime number. I questioned this saying surely your IT guys would have a better description of items stolen as I only used for 4 weeks and they've been taped up in box for nearly 3 months.

Apparently not, it's up to me to follow up with the police.

AIBU to think that I've given the company 30 hours of unpaid time just to stay home waiting on a collection?

AIBU to think it's not my problem? Company are adamant they weren't stolen by a rogue delivery driver after speaking to the useless company in question that failed to collect with no explanation 2 times previously.

I did waste 30 mins on hold to the non emergency number tonight and gave up.

Should this really be my responsibility?

Seems so.

Thank you!

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Kerrrmieee · 23/06/2022 22:04

@SnackSizeRaisin I did tell the company this. With pictures of where they were left - all good with the company. All good with me.

I didn't cancel my appointment. After 27 hours of my own time waiting for a non existent collection - even though the prepaid collection details were sent to me via recorded delivery and photographed and shared with company every time - I chose to go to an appointment I'd waited months for - with a photo of package in situ.

There was no way anyone would even know what was inside the package!

I'll do it online tomorrow - but the point of this thread is that I don't see why I should.

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Mrschristmasqueen · 23/06/2022 22:07

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Must vary between forces because the force I was at would have created a crime report as the aggrieved company had requested the third party report it. Any further contact or updates would have been via the aggrieved company though, not the RP.

TheHumanExperience · 24/06/2022 18:41

Ask your neighbours if they have CCTV or a Ring Doorbell, which shows the access to your house. Ring saves all the clips with Person Detected and stores it in the cloud. Offer them a bottle of wine to check for you on that date and during the time frame needed. Ring covers quite a wide scope. Maybe you would be able to see when the courier arrived, and if he/she left empty-handed. Without evidence, it's your responsibility as the property was taken from your home. Was it stolen, or taken and opportunistically reported as stolen.

007DoubleOSeven · 24/06/2022 18:44

Jalisco · 23/06/2022 20:10

It's really irrelevant whether you or the company are being unreasonable. You had possession of the equipment. And I'll lay bets that somewhere in the paperwork when you started this role you became responsible for its return to the company. So will it be your problem when they pursue you for the costs? You have no evidence to prove what happened to it, so it's almost certainly legally still your problem. So I'd be a little more co-operative. It may be annoying, but at this stage it might be in your own interests.

I agree with this.

bro101 · 24/06/2022 19:12

TheHumanExperience · 24/06/2022 18:41

Ask your neighbours if they have CCTV or a Ring Doorbell, which shows the access to your house. Ring saves all the clips with Person Detected and stores it in the cloud. Offer them a bottle of wine to check for you on that date and during the time frame needed. Ring covers quite a wide scope. Maybe you would be able to see when the courier arrived, and if he/she left empty-handed. Without evidence, it's your responsibility as the property was taken from your home. Was it stolen, or taken and opportunistically reported as stolen.

Ring only saves them if you have a subscription and motion detection enabled which not everyone does.

Kerrrmieee · 29/06/2022 11:57

Hi all, just an update.

I did report it to the police online so the company now have a crime reference.

When reporting it asked who was the victim, so I said the business and filled in all necessary details. The business are aware. The police said unlikely to follow up unless new evidence such as Ring doorbell or CCTV as suggested. My neighbours are 78 and 86 so... None of those - both unlikely to nick a big box too with no idea what was inside.

Everything has been sent to the company now. I haven't heard anything this week (so far) but I suspect the blame will fall on me either way.

I'll let you know what happens in due course. Still stressing me out.

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Kerrrmieee · 29/06/2022 12:28

@007DoubleOSeven I completely agree too and that's the way it's looking. Hence stressful.

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SuperTea · 29/06/2022 12:35

It takes moments to do on line, job done and you can forget about it.

Also you get to make sure your version of events is reported.

Spani · 29/06/2022 12:37

You had possession of them and you were responsible for them - they were stolen from you. The fact you didn't have "ownership" isn't remotely remotely relevant. If someone had mugged you for them would you have contacted the police? What about if someone had broken into your home during the night and taken them? They didn't cease to be your responsibility when you left them outside, they ceased to be your responsibility when they were collected (assuming the work paid for and hired the courier) or when they arrived back at work (if you hired the courier). You also know a lot more about the situation than they do, your local police force should be investigating, etc. I can't see why you don't just take the same amount of time it would've taken you to post this on Mumsnet to report it online - otherwise you're risking it looking like you've stolen the items because you're being weirdly stubborn about not wanting to make a police report.

Spani · 29/06/2022 12:38

Ignore me - I didn't read that you've done it until after I posted. You've done everything you can now OP so don't get stressed about it.

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 29/06/2022 12:41

DitzyBluebells · 23/06/2022 19:57

Just ignore them. It's not you problem they should have collected when they said. After messing you around with the job like that in the first place I'd have made them collect at your convenience and not waited in for them at all

This. ^ Ignore them @Kerrrmieee Not your problem. Block them on email, phone, whatsapp etc... Block their number. They sound shit. Sorry you have had to tolerate this crap. Flowers

Vikinga · 29/06/2022 12:47

I would have cancelled the pick up and had it rearranged rather than leave valuable items outside. But they were happy with that so that's not your problem. Wouldn't it have been easier for you to drop the equipment off at a courier pick up place or at the work rather than wait 3 x for them to be picked up?

GladAllOver · 29/06/2022 12:49

As a general principle, if you believe a crime has been committed you should report it. You don't have to be the victim.
But in this case do you know that a crime was committed? You made arrangements for the package to be collected, and someone did. You don't know who took it. As far as you know the courier could have collected it. You only have their word that they did not.

MammaMacgill87 · 29/06/2022 12:59

If they messaged you to say the items had been uplifted then it's out of your hands now. If they did indeed confirm it had been picked up why does that have anything to do with you? I'm lost. It's their job to say their equipment was collected but never received 🤔

Kerrrmieee · 29/06/2022 13:28

@Vikinga no, I don't drive and this was my place of work (home). There was no way I could have carried that box anywhere. Looking back - doing a Hermes collection at my own expense would have been preferable, but they only use one company and insisted on sending the address notes via recorded mail, which were all received, taped on, photographed and sent to the company.

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Kerrrmieee · 29/06/2022 13:29

@MammaMacgill87 they were saying it was never collected.

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Kerrrmieee · 29/06/2022 13:34

@GladAllOver

This is it. I've waited and waited for them to collect this damn box, but the courier company says they didn't and the company are taking couriers word for it.

Courier company said they had no vans in area that day - they did, because I was out the front gardening during the pick up time and 2 drove past.

Work has asked me to report as a crime as they believe courier. So I reported them (work) as the victim.

They sound a bit arse over tit - they originally wanted me to claim on my home insurance - no! I'm not committing insurance fraud without the facts.

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Kerrrmieee · 29/06/2022 13:37

Thank you @WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps

I might have to! Sad thing is, when I started lots of things in my life became turbulent at once and I couldn't commit to the shifts. They said they'd re-employ me next intake in Sept... Doubt it now. Oh well - wasn't exactly my dream job.

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Kerrrmieee · 29/06/2022 13:39

Lol @Spani thanks for the rant 😁👍 yeah have done everything now and the company has all updates and messages from police forwarded.

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