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Going to the gym when signed off work?

276 replies

hunge · 23/06/2022 07:55

DH thinks this is hugely unreasonable and is shocked I even suggested it … surely it isn’t?

OP posts:
TheRoadToRuin · 23/06/2022 14:39

A GP can’t always diagnose the issue - you’d normally be referred by them to a physio or onwards to another service to confirm the diagnosis. A GP will provide the pain relief etc.
My GP referred me for an MRI. Current waiting time 3 months. I asked about Physio just to get me some exercises and he said no physio would do that without a diagnosis.
So I am stuck with swimming, which I loathe. Daren't use a gym because lifting a weight hurts and I can't walk much let alone run.

tabulahrasa · 23/06/2022 14:40

Chaoslatte · 23/06/2022 14:13

Assessed for what? A doctor can diagnose the issue. The point of going to a physiotherapist vs any other healthcare practitioner is physical therapy (clue in the name!) which usually takes the form of prescribed exercises which will help the injury heal if done regularly.

I’ve been diagnosed.

To be exact, I see two physios, one is a spinal specialist who works with the neurologist - she assesses me to pass on how I’m doing so they can decide whether I’m progressing fine as is, whether I need another MRI or whether I’m a surgical candidate, they’re currently undecided so I see her about every 6 weeks.

The other assesses my progress and whether I’m functioning better and gives me exercises to do at home. Then I go back in 2-3 weeks.

So nothing at all like going to the gym really.

7eleven · 23/06/2022 14:41

Rephrase it as hydrotherapy?

Chaoslatte · 23/06/2022 14:47

tabulahrasa · 23/06/2022 14:40

I’ve been diagnosed.

To be exact, I see two physios, one is a spinal specialist who works with the neurologist - she assesses me to pass on how I’m doing so they can decide whether I’m progressing fine as is, whether I need another MRI or whether I’m a surgical candidate, they’re currently undecided so I see her about every 6 weeks.

The other assesses my progress and whether I’m functioning better and gives me exercises to do at home. Then I go back in 2-3 weeks.

So nothing at all like going to the gym really.

Going to the gym isn’t just spin classes and deadlifts. There are lots of things in gyms that can help people with physio exercises, like exercise balls, step boxes, resistance bands, full length mirrors, soft mats etc. Even the treadmill can help people who are learning to walk again. I’ve been prescribed exercises before that need to be done in the pool. My physio clinic has a pool, or my gym has a pool. It’s not like OP wants to go to the gym to get a new PB, she wants to do it in a therapeutic capacity - which is why it’s the same.

darisdet · 23/06/2022 15:09

Sounds reasonable to me, OP.

PrtScn · 23/06/2022 15:27

I think you’d be taking the piss. If you can go to the gym with a bad back you can go do a desk job. My colleague has a back injury and had a suitable chair ordered for her, a desk that moves up and down and various other accomodations such as approval to use the first aid room as required for stretching exercises etc. Plus she can go for a walk round the building.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 23/06/2022 15:28

Just go and don't tell anyone... if it's helping your back then tell DH to sod off!

CapMarvel · 23/06/2022 15:47

PrtScn · 23/06/2022 15:27

I think you’d be taking the piss. If you can go to the gym with a bad back you can go do a desk job. My colleague has a back injury and had a suitable chair ordered for her, a desk that moves up and down and various other accomodations such as approval to use the first aid room as required for stretching exercises etc. Plus she can go for a walk round the building.

Yeah, and you'd be wrong to think that.

CapMarvel · 23/06/2022 15:48

SirChenjins · 23/06/2022 14:26

Good managers recognise that going to the gym is a sign of an employee with a back injury taking steps to rectify the issue and would encourage them

How would any manager know that without knowing what the HCPs have recommended? I mean, I'm brilliant at most things, but I've no idea of my member of staff with a bad back is doing the right thing by going to the gym.

How about you trust your staff to be doing the right thing? Radical idea, I know.

SirChenjins · 23/06/2022 16:04

Because, smartarse, going to the gym might be the wrong thing completely and so I'd trust the guidance from my Occ Health team and physios that I would refer my team to.

eatingapie · 23/06/2022 16:13

Don’t let bitches at the office put you off doing what you need to do to feel better 👊🏻

darisdet · 23/06/2022 16:17

SirChenjins · 23/06/2022 16:04

Because, smartarse, going to the gym might be the wrong thing completely and so I'd trust the guidance from my Occ Health team and physios that I would refer my team to.

Is OP not acting on physio advice?

SirChenjins · 23/06/2022 16:27

darisdet · 23/06/2022 16:17

Is OP not acting on physio advice?

Nothing in their posts to suggest they are.

I was referring to another poster who said "Good managers recognise that going to the gym is a sign of an employee with a back injury taking steps to rectify the issue and would encourage them" - my point was that I wouldn't encourage a member of my team to go to the gym unless I knew that's what the HCP had recommended. I know FA about back injuries, why on earth would I encourage them to go to the gym (to do what?) without being sure that they hadn't unilaterally decided to go and were possibly making things worse (and extending the length of time they were off).

tabulahrasa · 23/06/2022 17:08

To be fair, swimming is fairly standard physio advice for back issues when you’re at the point you’re able to get to and in the pool.

I was just surprised at still getting a sick note at that same point because that’s not been my experience.

darisdet · 23/06/2022 17:32

Sorry, fair enough @SirChenjins

Momicrone · 23/06/2022 17:36

Could you go to the gym and go to work

MigsandTiggs · 23/06/2022 18:05

Chaoslatte · 23/06/2022 14:47

Going to the gym isn’t just spin classes and deadlifts. There are lots of things in gyms that can help people with physio exercises, like exercise balls, step boxes, resistance bands, full length mirrors, soft mats etc. Even the treadmill can help people who are learning to walk again. I’ve been prescribed exercises before that need to be done in the pool. My physio clinic has a pool, or my gym has a pool. It’s not like OP wants to go to the gym to get a new PB, she wants to do it in a therapeutic capacity - which is why it’s the same.

I have just checked all OP's posts and nowhere does she say that she has been prescribed "gym" treatment by a physio. She is not a medical professional and the treatment for a prolapsed/bulging/herniated disc varies depending on how it presents. Trotting off to a gym to do your own idea of rehabilitation exercises is madness...and completely separate from being concerned about office gossip when you're spotted in said gym!

MigsandTiggs · 23/06/2022 18:18

CapMarvel · 23/06/2022 15:47

Yeah, and you'd be wrong to think that.

I too had the special chair and desk and used my mid morning break to walk around the block. I also took in an exercise mat and a piece of Pilates equipment that I kept in a basement room and used to exercise there every lunch time. I knew if I didn't do this I would get a back "episode" again. People with bad backs have to learn how to manage their condition if they want to continue working

NeverDropYourMooncup · 23/06/2022 19:23

Trotting off to a gym to do your own idea of rehabilitation exercises is madness

I don't know about you, but after 45 years of joint and tendon injuries due to a combination of hypermobility/connective tissue disease and Psoriatic Arthritis - and a sizeable case of 'Chances are I'm going to wake up tomorrow and something else will be hurting, so I might as well do something fun and at least know why I'm in pain for a change' - I am pretty good at knowing what to do for particular situations and what they feel like.

There's no point in taking up NHS time and money to see the physio in the literal local authority gym where they hold their sessions to be asked to do three exercises with the pins out of the plates after 3 minutes of warmup when a) I have a perfectly good gym membership already, b) my gym has Concept 2s, not the Skillrow, whose main benefits appear to be that you don't have to sit so low down and the resistance can be adjusted without leaning forwards and c) that adductor machine looks worryingly like it's never been wiped (or serviced) in its life.

The other issue is that an NHS physio is generally only able to deal with one particular issue that's been referred to them rather than a 'there's the right labral tear, and then there's the gluteus medius tendinosis, plus there's moderate narrowing of the disk space between L5 and S1, the sacroiliac joint was completely locked up for six months, which really hurt until I managed to pop it just before Easter, oh, and the left ankle, that's got a combination of tendinopathy of lateral peroneal and achilles with considerable retrocalcaneal bursitis in the latter and bursitis in the 3rd, 4th and 5th metatarsals until I got some customs and changed to On Cloudflyers, and my shoulder popped randomly last week, but I think that was a combination of a bit of weakness following the partial thickness tear of the right supraspinatus (should have been more careful with goblet squats) and some impingement + wear and tear of the acromioclavicular joint'.

I just need the imaging to confirm that the latest novel site of pain/swelling/lack of range of motion/impingement/whatever isn't due to something particularly hideous (no point waiting 14 months for yet another USS or MRI or x-ray when I already know why a firm press to a certain point will result in a sharp intake of breath - they've looked at almost every joint, limb and structure multiple times in my life, after all) and then I'm good to go and get on with it - at vastly reduced cost to the NHS, my employer - and me, as it's not deteriorating along with strength and mobility in the rest of my body, due to fear.

And if it's a full blown PsA flare instead of just the odd joint or enthesis here and there, I get to wear clothes that are easy to put on, footwear that helps (but doesn't exactly look professional), sit on things that are designed to encourage ergonomic positioning instead of a chair from about 1994, zone out rather than be constantly interrupted, have to pick up a phone, use a crappy workstation, and then enjoy airconditioning, cool, supportive water, dry and moist heat and use what little energy I have to do something that will help me recover, rather than half kill myself in work and then be unable to do anything that might help and will likely cause me to deteriorate further.

Of course, in an ideal world, I'd have the money for private sports physio regularly and private imaging. But I don't. So I'll use the NHS for the bits I can't avoid - the imaging - and then the bits I already pay for - gym, gym gear, wobble boards, shoes, orthotics, bands, foam roller, theragun....etc....etc - to do the rest.

MigsandTiggs · 23/06/2022 19:44

@NeverDropYourMooncup , you’ve just proved my point. In 45 years you’ve learned what to do from the specialists so now you can exercise safely in a gym. I don’t think the OP has seen a physiotherapist, or if she has, she hasn’t mentioned it.

110APiccadilly · 23/06/2022 21:23

TheRoadToRuin · 23/06/2022 14:39

A GP can’t always diagnose the issue - you’d normally be referred by them to a physio or onwards to another service to confirm the diagnosis. A GP will provide the pain relief etc.
My GP referred me for an MRI. Current waiting time 3 months. I asked about Physio just to get me some exercises and he said no physio would do that without a diagnosis.
So I am stuck with swimming, which I loathe. Daren't use a gym because lifting a weight hurts and I can't walk much let alone run.

@TheRoadToRuin Your GP is (probably, it may depend on your symptoms) wrong. I know this because I was told the same thing by a GP. My back detoriated while I was waiting for an MRI and I had a terrible experience with it. I later spoke to a senior doctor who said the GP had given completely wrong advice and I should have gone to the physio ASAP!

IvyM · 24/06/2022 18:15

I’ve got 3 lumbar disk herniations, swimming helps me run without any pain, but when I stop swimming it all flares up, can’t even walk without pain. It really doesn’t matter what people think, you do what’s best for your back.

GingerWit · 24/06/2022 18:34

It's nobody else's business really. Your colleagues don't need to know your private information and if they have a problem with it, that's their problem! I also wouldn't ask my hubby for permission, or his opinion. I think deep down you are worrying, when really exercise will help you heal faster and get back to work a lot sooner - It's reasonable to take steps in getting your health on point to return to work.

Easterdaffsx · 24/06/2022 18:35

I was off once with stress and had make myself swim and it did help . Everyone has their reasons and it’s not an issue in my opinion .

WYSIWYG99 · 24/06/2022 18:36

I had a slipped disc so know exactly the pain, I was referred to Occy Health by my boss and they organised for me to have physio at a local gym, after each session a PT would take me through various exercises and yoga moves in the gym to aid my recovery so for sure go to the gym as it got me back to work quicker and you are spot on the worst thing is to be inactive