Tesco's and fake labels - totally legit

[Moonshine5]

Genuinely shocked.
What is the point of a fake label? AIBU

Tesco aren't trying to hide this, as evidenced by the fact that you know about it from the socking great notices as you enter the store. Likewise Sainsburys has big notices as you enter the store.

It's a fast moving situation and they're doing their best to let people know. There's no real motive for them to make people think that a product has sunflower rather than rapeseed oil as a small part of the ingredient list: it's not like the "free-range" eggs where you can see that they'd have motivation not to let people know.

But you are informed about it.. you posted a notice informing you..

don’t buy the affected products if you don’t want to - but the fact you know about the issue and can make that choice is the whole point of the notice.

I haven't seen the warning notice in my local Sainsbury's but have seen it in Aldi and McDonald's. I read the notices and it was clear to me that this meant products containing sunflower oil not actual bottles of oil. Yes food labelling should be clear but publishing warnings about changes seems the most cost effective and practical way to manage to avoid wastage and keep costs down.
The signs about barn eggs being substituted for free range eggs are still up in my local supermarkets - I thought the bird flu problem was still ongoing.

Don't like it don't buy it! It's really that simple!

There's a war on in the country that produces this oil. I don't know if you've properly thought this through?

Ironically, bottles of olive oil are quite likely to contain other oils, but for different reasons that are not widely advertised: www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/ceciliarodriguez/2016/02/10/the-olive-oil-scam-if-80-is-fake-why-do-you-keep-buying-it/amp/

Our FSA agency don’t actually have very high standards when you take a deep dive into certain areas. This does worry me. I can see an accident happening with allergic people. Supposing they replaced it with groundnut oil and it wasn’t labelled? Or shoved palm oil into everything? Lots of people avoid that at all costs. I can only presume this is very very short term but still a lot of products where the consumer doesn’t actually know what they are eating!

Our local Tesco and Iceland have had signs up for weeks. Would you rather have empty shelves and food going to waste OP?

Thanks for this, much appreciated. I haven't needed to buy it in a while, but seems I'm rare as I do have an allergy to rapeseed oil & this is totally shit

There are bigger problems in the world than a fake label. Get a grip!

But they ARE informing people, with a pretty unavoidable message right at the top of the website as you have seen but also plenty of signs in the shops (in my local Tesco at least anyway, can't see it would be different for others).

I didn't know about this but the reasoning seems sound. If you dont like it then avoid processed food for the time being.

It’s not this Tesco and they can use any oil. It’s a worrying time for people with allergies.

But...they are LITERALLY INFORMING YOU YOU MUPPET!

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Unless they clearly tell you which labels are temporarily inaccurate while they are busy reprinting. Thereby not allowing food to go to waste.

The conspiracy theorists now have a new hole to fall down...the financial crisis and all that follows from this 🤣🙌🏼👍

You’ve made yourself look silly @Moonshine5

Hopefully you’re educating yourself here.

Totally agree with those saying that not doing this would mean a long delay in supply for new packaging. You can’t just reprint packs. You have to get your graphics team to change it - they’re really busy right now because of similar issue. You need to get your regularity affairs people to sign off on it - perhaps you’ve got a claim on pack “high in…” that is no longer valid.

Once that’s done, let’s say you’ve sent your new artwork to your packaging printer..

Oh, OP… you just have no fucking clue what’s happened to packaging lead times in the last 2 years, have you? 🙄

I’ve got boxes I used to order on a 6 week definite lead time that now take 3 months “hopefully”. This means we’ve most of us got excess packaging now (you know: with sunflower on) because we’ve been building it to maintain supply. There are items that we used to just order and pay for, that suppliers won’t give us a price on any more - the variation in price on solid board (raw material for printed fancy branded boxes) is so unpredictable that you have to choose to place your order guaranteeing to pay but without a guaranteed price.

So yeah, we can change the pack in 3 months time, by which point an alternative oil to rapeseed might be in use, or back to sunflower anyway… but look, what do we do for those 3 months? Shall we lay off our production workers? Because that’s what would happen.

Honestly OP, a little bit of critical thinking or just googling before posting can reduce how much of a dick you make yourself look 🤷🏻‍♀️

God I love a good common sense thread on Mumsnet 😁

And if the FSA didn't bend the rules on this and insisted on an absolute adherence to the packaging rules on pain of criminal sanctions, the costs would be enormous. What would this do to the price of food?

You sound very invested in this, do you have food allergies or intolerances?
All that is happening is that in some processed products rapeseed oil is being used instead of sunflower oil. To help prevent delays caused by the need to reprint packaging it has been decided that for a short period the old packaging which states sunflower oil is being used is ok to use.
While I agree packaging should reflect the true ingredients unless there is a reason you can’t have rapeseed oil I don’t understand why this is a big issue for you

Well for a start all of the supermarkets that I have been in to are displaying this notice. Waitrose for example has a big sign on their Customer Service desk.
The FSA did press releases on the subject earlier in the year, which then led to news articles on the subject.
The information has been out there all along, you've just not read it.

What a strange statement. The "alignment with price rises" being talked about on this thread is simply factual, nothing to do with ethics.

If you increase costs for suppliers by insisting that the packaging correctly shows which oil was used in preparing the product, prices will go up for consumers. If there is a shortage of a product due to an insistence on the packaging correctly showing which oil was used, prices will go up for consumers. That is simple cause and effect.

I'm afraid your second post showed your lack of understanding when you talked about branding olive oil as rapeseed oil. Even the image you include in your OP shows this is not true. If you buy a bottle of olive oil, it will contain olive oil. Similarly, if you buy a bottle of sunflower oil, it will contain sunflower oil. However, if you buy a product that lists sunflower oil as an ingredient, it may contain refined rapeseed oil instead.

People have got sick from eating misleading product labels

Allergic reactions to rapeseed oil are very rare and, if they do occur, are always mild. The same is true of the other allowed substitutes (refined coconut oil and refined soybean oil). None of these oils are among the allergens that must be declared on food labels.

Are you competent with op for most uninformed post?

Back that you with something from a legitimate peer reviewed journal or don’t spread crap

Classic Mumsnet hysteria.

Completely agree with this practice by the way

better than printing and reprint millions of packaging that ends up in the bin.

they’ve made every effort to inform people and it’s not a deadly allergen.