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To remind people for lane closures to merge in turn???

35 replies

HeleenaHandcart · 18/06/2022 17:17

A11 two lanes to one, huge huge queue in the left lane. As usual empty right hand lane. People trying to force their way left early 900 yards before the lane closure (planned and well sign posted roadworks).

Over 800+ yards of alternating signs reminding motorists ’use both lanes to queue’ and ‘merge in turn’ repeated.

Yet everyone still goes left and gets angry?! It’s so clear, why do people do this? One woman nearly caused an accident swerving out to block the car in front of me using the right lane. Others get angry at the merge point trying to glue to the bumper in front of them to block merging. People were shouting, blocking each other and even straddling the middle line to stop cars passing them.

I use the right lane, travel at a sensible low speed past the left queue then zipper merge. Surely if everyone did this the road would flow better without the stop start random pushing in on each other for a mile or so.

What’s with it?

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sittingnexttochoppysea · 18/06/2022 19:24

riesenrad · 18/06/2022 18:03

The problem here is that everyone doesn't do the same thing. Some places have "merge in turn" signs.

But where there aren't, it's quicker to get into the left hand lane earlier and then it keeps moving. The reason it doesn't, is because people push in.

And the lorry drivers are not twats unless it says merge in turn. They are professional drivers who probably know a bit more about the roads than the average MNer and are trying to stop people making the queue longer by pushing in further up.

I think it's quicker if you get over early, but I suspect it depends on the location concerned and the volume of traffic. And eg at Stonehenge they say merge in turn (much of the problem there is idiots slowing down to look at it, not the getting into one lane se, it's because even though you are in one lane, you still can't move freely).

You could not be more wrong. If the road moved quicker if everyone got left early they'd close the lane further back. Everyone getting in the lane early causes congestion further back. So at the island/traffic light junction or whatever further back cars can't get through because people like you don't use the empty lane.
There doesn't need to be a sign saying merge in turn because anyone who has passed their driving test should know the the Highway Code states you should merge in turn when two lanes merge.

The people 'pushing in' are actually the arseholes who don't allow the cars to merge in turn.

SerendipityJane · 18/06/2022 19:24

Where the roadworks are longer term and more on peoples commute I have noticed that merging in turn is much more common. And as with such things when 80% of "other people" are doing it, it becomes harder to buck the trend (see also: speeding).

However it is another nice tosspot-trap that modern life has provided us with. If you can't manage with the concept then you are a complete asshat of the first water and really not worth any conversation at all. As I told a colleague a few years ago when I had the misfortune to accept a planet-saving lift.

junglejane66 · 18/06/2022 19:43

R00K · 18/06/2022 18:28

Sorry, I didn't realise that the unprofessional lorry drivers were given authority by the police to control traffic.

😂😂😂😂

whatdoidonowffs · 18/06/2022 20:02

Not feeling the love for lorry drivers 😢

HeleenaHandcart · 18/06/2022 20:02

Its common sense to merge as late as possible, not as early as possible! Argh!

Simple scenario- which is quicker:
a) a mile of single lane reduction?
b) 100m of single lane reduction?

Obviously b, travelling with less lanes for the least distance possible. Merging early and randomly all over the place also causes reactive braking to let people in, or people downright stopping and waiting to squeeze in and holding up cars, instead of the natural steady flow of a zipper merge at the right time. It’s not ‘pushing in’, there’s no bloody queue to ‘push in’, it’s an imaginary queue creates in the minds of people who don’t know how to drive 🙄

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HeleenaHandcart · 18/06/2022 20:03

Tbf I’ve never actually been stopped from merging by a lorry.
Its 80% women drivers I’ve experienced I hate to say, though the minority of men tend to be the actually aggressive ones.

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sittingnexttochoppysea · 18/06/2022 20:16

I'm a police officer and there have been two occasions when I've been in an unmarked car in plain clothes (on duty) when some idiot straddles both lanes in an attempt stop car passing in the empty lane. Both occasions I've got out of my car and approached them and the shock on their faces when I point out they are obstructing the carriage way and to get back into one lane if they don't want a ticket. The indignation they show when told they're actually in the wrong would be funny if it wasn't so frustrating.

TrainspottingWelsh · 18/06/2022 20:46

Couldn’t agree more. If you need explicit instructions telling you to merge in turn, you shouldn’t be on the road.
Same fuckers that sit in the inside lane refusing to let anyone on from the slip road in heavy traffic, and block keep clear signs. ‘I was here first, this is my lane, nobody is allowed in it, and if I have to queue nobody else should be able to move’

AclowncalledAlice · 19/06/2022 09:08

Same fuckers that sit in the inside lane refusing to let anyone on from the slip road in heavy traffic, and block keep clear signs. ‘I was here first, this is my lane, nobody is allowed in it, and if I have to queue nobody else should be able to move’

They're probably related to the fuckers on the right who, because you have let the car in front merge, think that they have the right to go in front of you as well instead of waiting their turn.

CandyLeBonBon · 19/06/2022 09:13

HeleenaHandcart · 18/06/2022 17:17

A11 two lanes to one, huge huge queue in the left lane. As usual empty right hand lane. People trying to force their way left early 900 yards before the lane closure (planned and well sign posted roadworks).

Over 800+ yards of alternating signs reminding motorists ’use both lanes to queue’ and ‘merge in turn’ repeated.

Yet everyone still goes left and gets angry?! It’s so clear, why do people do this? One woman nearly caused an accident swerving out to block the car in front of me using the right lane. Others get angry at the merge point trying to glue to the bumper in front of them to block merging. People were shouting, blocking each other and even straddling the middle line to stop cars passing them.

I use the right lane, travel at a sensible low speed past the left queue then zipper merge. Surely if everyone did this the road would flow better without the stop start random pushing in on each other for a mile or so.

What’s with it?

We had this on roadworks the other day - I and others behind me were using the right lane to merge in turn and a van pulled out in front of me from the left hand lane and 'held' space at the same pace as he would have been had he stayed in the left lane, to avoid me going past him and merging into the queue in the correct way - effectively policing my progress. Utter cockishness! People don't get 'merging in turn' and just assume you're a chancer who's trying to queue jump!

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