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Train and tube strikes

178 replies

uneffingbelievable · 15/06/2022 23:03

I can not work from home and my job is fairly essential.

To get to work next week - I have now along with many of my colleagues had to:

  1. Book a hotel on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday nights
  2. Pay for parking at the station for 4 full days
  3. Organise extra child care and a taxi to pick DCS up from school ( too far to walk and no bus)
  4. Will have to pay to eat out for those days
If the rail unions had not noticed we are ALL facing a cost of living crisis - wasting the best part of £500 to get to work is not endearing me to your cause.

The alternative of drive in and out each day in the traffic and pay for parking in London and then walk miles comes in at around £350 and exceedingly high BP.

Your actions are selfish beyond belief and hurt the innocent hardworking majority.

That is the polite version - selfish beyond belief

OP posts:
Lockheart · 15/06/2022 23:09

Oh look, yet another totally original hot take on the RMT strikes.

Strikes are supposed to be disruptive. Take it up with the government.

Lockheart · 15/06/2022 23:10

Oh look, yet another totally original hot take on the RMT strikes.

Strikes are supposed to be disruptive. Take it up with the government.

middleager · 15/06/2022 23:12

Can you book leave instead?

uneffingbelievable · 16/06/2022 00:08

Why should i waste my annual leave because a bunch of people are having a tantrum and want more monies - whilst costing millions to have to shell out for their actions.

OP posts:
uneffingbelievable · 16/06/2022 00:12

Lockheart- people can have an opinion on the rail strikes when they are going to adversely affect their lives and bank balances.

And no this is not an issue with the government - this is about people demanding more monies when the company they work for are making less monies and they want the tax payer to fork out for them to keep archaic working practices and inefficient working patterns.

OP posts:
DancesWithFelines · 16/06/2022 00:33

So weird!
i take it you didn’t live through IRA bombings, 7/7 bombings, the failed bombs a two weeks after 7/7, London Bridge attack, Parsons Green station bomb, jubilee line drivers cab bomb. Have you heard about the kings cross/Oxford Circus fires? The serial killer who was pushing people under tubes?

because if you did you’d want staff manning your stations.
have you not ever been on a train where a person has jumped in front or where a person is having a seizure/heart attack?

what do you think happens in an emergency?

there is already a mass exodus of staff and jobs are being cut even more.

this strike is not about drivers wages.

DancesWithFelines · 16/06/2022 00:36

And I for one am not in the RMT, I’m ASLEF and I’m gutted about losing a days money if I don’t cross their picket.

I’m going to be out of pocket and have massive logistical childcare issues like you….. but I also don’t believe it’s safe to cut any more staff when we already run on a shoestring.

waveyourpompoms · 16/06/2022 03:32

They are selfish and I really hope they don’t get what they want. We don’t reward tantrums in children, we shouldn’t reward tantrums in adults.

This is not the way to go about it.

FriendsNotFood · 16/06/2022 04:31

You don’t sound like you know much about it OP, you just sound annoyed about it affecting you, Look a bit harder for what’s really happening and why they’re striking. I can’t believe that when people actually know, they won’t support them striking.

They have my full support. And yes, the strikes will cause disruption for us.

TheHomeContact · 16/06/2022 04:57

OP and a couple of the commenters don't actually realise what the strike is for.

Nor understand how strikes work.

As a PP put it already, this is about staffing cuts among other non-pay related things.

Do take part in some research before assuming why they're striking.

jetadore · 16/06/2022 06:40

Perhaps if there were more strikes there wouldn’t be a cost of living crisis?

SherbetDips · 16/06/2022 06:47

That is disgusting OP! Fed up of these rail workers holder us to ransom.

NewPapaGuinea · 16/06/2022 06:49

Where are you travelling from/to?

balalake · 16/06/2022 06:53

I wonder how essential your job is, so for example travelling on one of the trains that is running, only half of you going in to the place of work. Tube is only striking one day.

As for the strikes, I don't agree with them but also condemn the government for not legislating to restrict them and/or require a minimum level of service as the Germans do.

DingleyDel · 16/06/2022 06:55

Look at the disaster at airports, a similar erosion of working rights and safe practices has happened there over the last few years (what BA did to their long standing staff was disgusting). It makes things unworkable in the end because there will be a massive recruitment shortage. Squeeze staff too much and the system breaks down. I don’t know why it’s become the norm for workers and customers to put up with it just so some shareholders can make a little bit less money. Good on them for standing up to it.

frazzledasarock · 16/06/2022 06:57

the employment rights we currently enjoy is down to unions collective bargaining.

im behind the strikes, they’re striking because the companies are not replacing thousands of jobs. It will have a direct impact on users if it goes through.

I'm only surprised more industries are not striking. Given the current state of government policy and the direct impact it’s having.

SilverGlitterBaubles · 16/06/2022 07:00

I think there should be a national strike in protest at the absolute state of our country and the fact that we have a government that seems hell bent on stoking divisions and culture wars rather than dealing with the crisis we are in.

Sirzy · 16/06/2022 07:01

So the employees should just sit back and accept what is in effect a pay cut? And they should just sit back and allow their rights to be eroded?

The Union have again today reiterated their desire to sit down with Shapps to come up with a plan.

at the moment it’s more important than ever that the rights of the workers are taken into account.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 16/06/2022 07:01

TheHomeContact · 16/06/2022 04:57

OP and a couple of the commenters don't actually realise what the strike is for.

Nor understand how strikes work.

As a PP put it already, this is about staffing cuts among other non-pay related things.

Do take part in some research before assuming why they're striking.

Oh is it?

The why is Mick Lynch putting the pay demand in first place?

*General secretary Mick Lynch said "members want a decent pay rise, job security and no compulsory redundancies".

camelfinger · 16/06/2022 07:02

It’s a shame that the strike will mainly hurt workers who cannot work from home, people who don’t have the money for a car, plus so many will be left out of pocket like the OP. Loads of people who have the alternative will work from home all next week, which we’re all used to now. So the impact of the strike will be felt by the people who would probably already vote for a different government. It’s very divisive, and just won’t have the same impact that it would have done 20 years ago. Services where I live have been slashed because of covid, so many people have gone back to using their cars at the best of times. It’s a shame.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 16/06/2022 07:03

I'm self employed, I will be losing work and money.
Bastards.

BobbinHood · 16/06/2022 07:04

Many of the problems in the rail industry are because passenger numbers haven’t returned to pre covid levels, and probably won’t because so many of the people who commuted every day have switched to working from home part or all of the time. So taking action to seriously impact the passengers they do have? Hastening their own decline. I’m not surprised you’re angry OP.

The rail unions might find their strike action has less impact than it has historically because fewer people and, particularly, fewer people working in positions of power, will be affected due to having the alternative to work from home.

hotdogsjumpingfrogs · 16/06/2022 07:08

People should always have the right to withhold their labour. The other option is enforced labour.

Strikers lose out too, no-one does it for fun.

Inflation is at 10%, The pay requests are effectively resisting pay cuts.

Plus what others have already said about passenger safety

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 16/06/2022 07:12

hotdogsjumpingfrogs · 16/06/2022 07:08

People should always have the right to withhold their labour. The other option is enforced labour.

Strikers lose out too, no-one does it for fun.

Inflation is at 10%, The pay requests are effectively resisting pay cuts.

Plus what others have already said about passenger safety

How is it enforced labour if they get paid?

If they can't be bothered to work they should just leave.

Antarcticant · 16/06/2022 07:13

I wish more underpaid workers had strong unions who were prepared to take industrial action. It's a disgrace that we have CEOs earning millions while their subordinates are struggling with basic costs and poor working conditions.