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The tinder swindler

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AlternativePerspective · 15/06/2022 15:57

I’ve just watched this for the first time.

The man was clearly a despicable conman, but:

While I can see how someone could fall fr his charms, be taken in by the lifestyle and believe that this was a genuine relationship, I find it really hard to understand how so many women ended up giving him so much money. To the extent some of them had hundreds and hundreds of thousands in debt. And to that end, I find it hard to understand how so many women fall for these internet scammers.

From the other side, the fact that he got only 15 months in jail is disgraceful. And since coming out of prison he’s done interviews for the media etc. Why is the media turning him into some kind of celebrity over this?

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BlackandBlueBird · 15/06/2022 17:45

Oh, I felt incredibly sorry for the women. I didn’t understand the second (Dutch?) woman in the same way I understood the Norwegian one. In many ways she seemed more sensible and pragmatic.

DH was chuckling away that I would never fall for such a scam as a man like that (lavish lifestyle, showering with flowers etc) is such a complete turn off for me. But I can absolutely see why someone who was very desperate for love, and was then terrified that the man she loved would get badly hurt, would fall for it.

DFOD · 15/06/2022 17:54

Discovereads · 15/06/2022 17:39

The lavish lifestyle wasn’t down the line. For all these women, he had provided lavish meals/private jet flights/ 5 holidays and such well before* he faked the life in danger scenario to get money from them. He created in them a sense of indebtedness and obligation to help him out.

Yes that’s another layer of dynamics at play - obligation where he love bombed and bought them early doors - but still future faking with promises of lavish lifestyle - they never moved into any of the flats for instance.

Discovereads · 15/06/2022 17:59

DFOD · 15/06/2022 17:54

Yes that’s another layer of dynamics at play - obligation where he love bombed and bought them early doors - but still future faking with promises of lavish lifestyle - they never moved into any of the flats for instance.

But given they had been experiencing a lavish lifestyle with him, the promise of it continuing in the future is in my opinion reasonably believable. No, the woman he said he wanted to marry and move in with, he never followed through on getting a flat with her. But, one of the victims was not romantically involved with him, he had made no promise of a lavish future to her. She considered him a good, close friend and her motives were entirely altruistic.

KatherineJaneway · 17/06/2022 06:22

DFOD · 15/06/2022 17:39

What is the thinking on the Nordic cultural angle?

@DFOD IIRC it was the second woman featured who claimed never to have slept with him, whatever country she was from, if you said something in her culture it was to be believed.

knittedwithme · 17/06/2022 06:24

Sorry to hijack but so pleased to see a thread on this as I don't know many people who have watched this!

What do we think of his family, ie the mother of his child etc? Were they all in on it too, also being hoaxed?

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