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Transactional parenting

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SpringSpringTime · 10/06/2022 20:22

I have the kind of 4 year old of whom people say ‘ooh…he’s got a lot of energy’ with varying levels of amazement/tension. He’s a total delight but also cannot be contained (or at least barely). However! He is a straightforward little soul who responds incredibly well to if-that-then-this logic and I realise it’s basically become the backbone of my parenting. My go-to is ‘if x continues then no telly in the morning’, or 1-2-3 (where 3=no telly in the morning). This seems like a fairly minor threat that he really responds to though consequences escalate if he ignores me and I always follow through! I do sometimes try to appeal to his empathy/better judgement but tbh it takes too bloody long if it works at all and in the meantime he might have set the house on fire. But I do wonder if this is going to have unintended consequences later on! Soooo….YABU=you are creating a monster or YANBU=please tell me you do this too

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mistermagpie · 11/06/2022 08:32

ThisIsNotARealAvo · 11/06/2022 07:39

The problem with natural consequences is that they don't always happen! My children are adopted and can't really manage reward and punishment thinking. We were advised to use natural consequences but in reality these don't happen. If DS didn't put on his wellies, we couldn't make him and he would refuse to leave the house. The consequence of that is no one goes out, he gets what he wanted which was not to go out because he was terrified of everything. He wouldn't come on the walk anyway with no wellies but maybe other children would.

So many times we advise them if what could happen eg "if you don't brush your teeth your breath will smell and no one will want to sit next to you". Never happened. Don't jump up and down on the bus seats or you'll hurt yourself/get told off? Never happened. Don't spend all your money on sweets today or you'll have none left for tomorrow?Happened, but sweets can be stolen so what's the point?

I think it's fine to use punishments such as no telly as long as it's manageable and appropriate- if he has no tv for a week where's the motivation to be good?

I agree with you on this. I like the idea of natural consequences in theory, but it's one of those things where the consequence doesn't actually happen or the 'not putting the wellies on and therefore you can't go to the park' means that other people suffer.

If you have one child this can be easier to manage, but I have three and the other two shouldn't suffer just because one won't put his wellies on.

OP my view is just so what works. It won't work forever so you might as well utilise it while you can. There is so much more involved in raising a child that I honestly don't think this one thing will be the factor in whether he turns out to be a monster as an adult.

ponkydonkey · 11/06/2022 09:36

If my son said why what will happen
I'd reply you'll get very soggy wet feet! And laugh it off
Humour sometimes works with children, and stops the "battle" in its tracks

SpringSpringTime · 11/06/2022 10:28

Goodskin46 · 11/06/2022 07:35

I had a 4 year old just like this. Transactional parenting all the way. He is on track for 4 A*s at A-Level, has captained school sports clubs and his football team has just finished top of the league. He is just very ambitious and motivated personality. But is also an incredible young man.

Oh that’s lovely. I totally get what some pps are saying, it’s definitely framed more as consequences than threats and I feel I need it when the real consequences are too abstract for him to grasp. He is mostly very happy with this setup and it seems like he likes to know the boundaries. However I making a big effort to engage carefully first (oh wow, yes I can see you have learned to work a lighter! Where ever did you find that? Please can you give it back to me now) before asking more bluntly. And I’m really stressing that please is a magic word for both of us.

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SpringSpringTime · 11/06/2022 10:30

ponkydonkey · 11/06/2022 09:36

If my son said why what will happen
I'd reply you'll get very soggy wet feet! And laugh it off
Humour sometimes works with children, and stops the "battle" in its tracks

This sounds great but it doesn’t work with him-my mum does it, he absolutely adores her but he doesn’t listen to her. I have to be around as an enforcer and I need his respect for us to function!

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Goodskin46 · 11/06/2022 13:12

Transactional parenting with DS (18) this am;
If you want me to give you a lift to the station, first you need to clear up your breakfast mess and hang the bed sheeta on the washing line , it's not pretty but it works.

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