Fed up with goady RTB posts and how they're just bringing out the 'slag off people on benefits' contingent...

[SpeckofDustUponMySoul]

I think the title of my post just about covers it...
I live in an HA property and subsist upon benefits due to disability.
I don't agree with RTB, but I'm honestly fed up with RTB posts slating HA tenants.
It's not all and sundry, but it's becoming yet another excuse to bash the underclass.

Sorry am lost….what does RTB mean?

Right to buy as in Council or HA property

Do you understand that there is a huge social housing crisis? Wait lists are 10+ years long? That a HUGE amount of rolls on these lists are working and still can not afford to house themselves? Selling off yet more housing stock does not help people who need social housing. I wonder if you’d feel the same if you were still waiting

I wonder if you’d feel the same if you were still waiting

But she isn't. I think the point OP is making is that people may not want to buy their houses, yet they are getting slagged off just for the fact that there is a possibility to, IF they wanted to.

I do loathe benefit bashing, and believe many people on them would prefer not to be. It's various circumstances, bad health, and other factors that put people on them (and keep them on them.)

But I MASSIVELY disagree with this idea the Government are trotting out, to enable people on benefits to buy their social housing property with their benefits. It's like a bad joke. I can't believe they are suggesting it. I have no idea which cuckoo in the Government brought THIS to the table. HORRIBLE idea. I don't think it will come to anything though tbh.

Also,@SpeckofDustUponMySoul it's a bit out of order for you to label people on benefits as 'the underclasses.' Also inaccurate!

@PurpleButterflyWings I was being ironic in referring to people on benefits as the underclass. As per my post, I am on benefits. 🙄

@Bellyups I think you may have misconstrued my post.
I don't agree with RTB and never have.
Yes, I understand that there are huge issues within this country regarding paucity of social housing and decade long waiting lists et cetera.

I can understand the theory behind the right to buy scheme.
The reason it all falls down is there is not enough social housing being built to replace the purchased housing.

@SpeckofDustUponMySoul

I'm with you op

I am fortunate enough that I don't have to rely on or claim benefits but ten years ago it was a very different situation.

Got a terrible stigma attached to it but sadly everyone gets tarred with the same brush.

I also live in a ha property and I also don't agree with RTB.

There will never be enough houses built to counteract the issue so selling off what little stock there is will be yet another ridiculous decsision.

It’s the policy that people are bashing, not the people that it applies to.

Of course taking social housing out of circulation by selling it off is a bad thing. We need more of it, not less.

Given that you need a deposit, I don't see how this would work at all.

Won't it be cheaper for the goverment in the long run? Instead of having to pay HB for someone for some 50 years, they may only have to pay it for 30 years?

People should bash Boris for desperately dusting off thatchers create Tories policy and giving it a tweak to try to save his skin.

But the bile will, predictably, be more focused on the tenants and their perceived lack of morals in taking advantage of a perfectly legal opportunity in a country where home ownership instead of renting is seen as hugely important. ( A change that happened due to Thatcher starting rtb in the first place).

People will turn on each other. It's a well used distraction tactic! Get the plebs fighting among ourselves. A probably large number of people who bought their homes on the open market will resent the tenants who got the discount because although people should blame governments they mostly don't. They look to the private individuals and hate them instead.

People fall for this shit time and time and time again.

Rtb created the ridiculous increase in house prices. It put a lot of housing into the hands of private landlords and saw rental prices skyrocket.

The government could ringfence the money and pour it into creating new social housing, just like they could have last time. But they won't.

I agree with your disappointment that this policy idea is used by some as an excuse to attack all people on benefits. It's illogical since we have all been in receipt of some form of benefit or other including mortgage-payers.

It's inevitable though that lots of people don't examine things too closely. Take this Government. I'm surprised no one behind this world-beating wheeze appears to remember the role of the sub-prime mortgage in the global financial crash on 2008. But maybe they do and don't care.

What is amusing is that this latest world-beating wheeze from Boris Johnson to distract from his piss-poor performance is setting people at each other's throats when the intention was make people feel good. Normally the Tories would seize any excuse to bash benefit claimants. Well, some benefit claimants...

One benefit of the RTB in the future ( for the government at that time) is that those people who currently rent, so have no way of paying for care, will have a house to sell.

Don't worry if you look closely you will find this idea has been trotted out on numerous previous occasions by this government. However they have never followed through with it.
It's just another slogan by Boris to try and deflect from the lack of support for the working population and the disgusting way the 'average' person has been thrown under the bus. What can we do to deflect from the fact the extremely rich are getting richer and the rest of the plebs are getting poorer? Errrrr let's tell them they can buy their rented house. Brilliant, of course we will never follow through with it. Just like HS2 , although costing billions will never, ever benefit the North of England, and the £350 million per week we were going to spend on the NHS never happened either.
But now us millionaires can hide all our wealth and not declare it due to Brexit. Yes the rules were changing and it would have had to be declared under EU rules.
Hopefully the plebs who actually work to keep this country afloat will be distracted from the fact the cost of gas, electricity, petrol, diesel, food, rent, housing, etc ,etc are all rising out of all proportion will be overlooked.
Next: how to convince the plebs to buy shares in the NHS, a company which they already own and fund through NHS contributions.

I'm annoyed at the government giving people the opportunity to do it. The whole shit idea needs to be fully abolished so that no one can buy their council house. We have massive waiting lists all over the country for council housing and ha homes, because of this shit idea. This is the government's fault, no one else's.

Living in a HA house here, lovely area, new build, and I would never buy my house. I absolutely do not agree with RTB. I also just ignore the ignorant that bash benefit claimaints 🙄 it says more about them than us