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Moving - but not without a school place

21 replies

Burr77 · 09/06/2022 22:08

Hello

I think in the wrong board, but I realise I might come across as BU.

I am in a little bit of a bind and I am hoping I will find some solutions here from this wonderful network. I live in London and I have a new job in Bristol. I will need to go into the office from September 2 dpw. My husband can work from home although he needs to be in Reading 3 times a month

My husband wants a change to city living, so we are looking at other nearby areas to rent, while trying to sell our property in London. We are craving some space, and living closer to my family who are in Exeter.

The main issue is the schools.

I understand that we will not be allocated a place by the LEA until we move. However, we do not want to move until we have a place at a school of our liking.
My son had a terrible first couple of terms at a school 2 years ago, where he was silently bullied and it shattered his confidence. He is shy and sensitive but had no issues making friends prior to starting school, one which was very big on preaching inclusivity for all except for all but not so good at following through on their slogans. I was told at numerous teacher meetings that I was over-reacting, and perhaps my child was just very shy or over-sensitive.

We pulled him out and he is now thriving at his new school which happens to be a faith school. I am a practicing Catholic, my husband is a born-again Dawkins disciple but we have agreed on the faith school route and he can make his mind up later. I have a younger child who turns 5 in a couple of years’ time.

So schooling is the single most important factor here, more than the house or area. If our children are thriving and happy, then I can make peace with everything else (apart from it being an unsafe area). However, we have been told by most of the schools we went to visit and liked, that we will be on a long waiting list until we move because we are not within the catchment area, I cannot risk moving until we have a good school. I feel incredibly guilty about uprooting my son as it is especially since he has new-found confidence, he is on the school council and loves his football. Compared to a little boy of a couple of years ago, who grew pale before our eyes, dropped weight, began bed-wetting, and developed a nervous tic. My husband is very much of the same opinion.

I should add we cannot afford private, so it has to be state school route.

I’ve been told by colleagues that I am over-sensitive, that children are adaptable and we should get on with the move, and go for the first available space at a local school until we get a place at the school we do like. I want to avoid this scenario for the above reasons. As a child, I also moved primary schools 4 times due to my father's work, and I found it an isolating experience.

Has anyone been in this quandary - finding a good school first before moving? I know it is usual to find the place first, but I cannot take the risk of ending up at another school that fails my son.

All helpful suggestions very welcome.

Thank you!

OP posts:
SwayingInTime · 09/06/2022 22:12

Do any schools you like actually have places?

Crocsandshocks · 09/06/2022 22:14

I also moved primary schools 4 times due to my father's work, and I found it an isolating experience.

I would seriously consider whether moving is a good idea for this very reason.

TeenPlusCat · 09/06/2022 22:15

Your best bet is to find an area with a few schools you would find acceptable and plonk yourself there, as close as possible to at least one of them.

If y3 or above infant class size rules don't apply so you have more chance of winning an appeal if needed. Write on the Primary board for more info on appeals.

You could homeschool of get your Exeter family to homeschool until you get a place.

Forestgate · 09/06/2022 22:15

Sounds like you need to rent in a catchment and sort school place then buy when thats done

ScootsMcHoy · 09/06/2022 22:19

You can apply to any school you like and then move when you get a place. As it's an in year application they have to give you the place if they have one.

So as long as you are in the country you can apply. It doesn't matter if you are two hundred miles away.

I'd find a school ams if you get the place string it out for a couple of weeks and move into a nearby Air BNB until you find somewhere permanent.

RandomUsernameHere · 09/06/2022 22:21

If you can find a school you like that has a place then you can apply using your current address. Distance would only matter if there are more applicants than places (ie a waiting list in this case). At least that's how it works in some areas.

RandomUsernameHere · 09/06/2022 22:23

Pretty much cross posted with Scoots

Findahouse21 · 09/06/2022 22:25

Yes, I had a place for dd before we moved, she moved into y1. We were only moving 10 miles ish so moved her at a sensible time rather than the exact house move time, but as a pp said, if they have a space then my understanding is that they have to give it to you. The only difficulty could be is if they tell you that they have a space and you accept based on a long moving date, but someone else then requests a space - I don't know how long they would be obliged to hold it for you.

CornedBeef451 · 09/06/2022 22:50

When we moved areas we had to accept the place and move DD immediately. I don't think they'd hold a place for you, you take it if there is one or you get bumped when someone nearer applies.

It may be different in different areas but seems unlikely they'd hold a LEA place for you as it might affect they're funding.

SpiderinaWingMirror · 09/06/2022 22:53

When we moved, all the schools were over subscribed (y5). However the EA used the fair access protocol to place DD in the school we wanted, plus they would have had to pay for transport to any other school

Panamii · 09/06/2022 23:00

I'd rent as close as possible to the school you'd like but I would 'move' there myself and not bring the kids until you'd secured them school places.

TeenPlusCat · 10/06/2022 06:10

ScootsMcHoy · 09/06/2022 22:19

You can apply to any school you like and then move when you get a place. As it's an in year application they have to give you the place if they have one.

So as long as you are in the country you can apply. It doesn't matter if you are two hundred miles away.

I'd find a school ams if you get the place string it out for a couple of weeks and move into a nearby Air BNB until you find somewhere permanent.

Yes, if the school has a place and no waiting list they have to give it to you even if you are 200 miles away.

However good schools often have waiting lists, so the only way to get a place at those schools is
a) to be at the top of the waiting list (which normally requires you to live near, unless child is 'lucky' enough to have EHCP or be adopted etc)
b) live in the area, and appeal for the school with convincing argument

Iwantmyoldnameback · 10/06/2022 06:20

I think if my child had had problems and was now settled I would not be moving him.

Heronwatcher · 10/06/2022 06:22

Have you considered that your partner could buy in the new area (as others have said close to a few decent schools), apply for schools using that address, you rent a smaller place near the old schools, and then move as soon as the place is available? This won’t be cheap but it’s about the only way I can think to do it.

KarrotKake · 10/06/2022 06:43

Will the LEA give you a list of schools with spaces? Ours did when I said we were moving to X town (6 primaries to look at, I'm not sure they would do it for the whole of Bristol!). If any of those schools would be a good fit for your child, you can take the place - assuming you can move within a few weeks....

NoSquirrels · 10/06/2022 06:57

I’d stay put for now. London to Bristol commute 2 days isn’t a bad one, and as everyone says you can only guarantee a place if there IS a place in a school to be offered to you. Waiting lists are no help.

If I were you, I’d stay put for now, think about when the application time is for youngest children for reception and try to move to a rental as close as possible to the school you want to coincide with that.

You don’t want to live in the city so presumably you’ve narrowed some areas down already so it really is as case of being strategic. And accepting that you cannot guarantee all this.

SpaceyCake · 10/06/2022 07:08

Whereabouts in Bristol are you looking? There are some really lovely suburbs just outside Bristol that have decent schools. Maybe it would be worth finding an area where there are a couple of good schools and finding a place there and then applying for schools.

I think I would also consider staying put if at all possible. The London-Bristol commute isn't that bad (I'm told!) and should be doable 2 days a week?

AvocadoPlant · 10/06/2022 07:15

Do you want close proximity to a city or are you looking at towns and villages? If the latter then consider Wiltshire, easy commute to Bristol and Reading, and Exeter.

CoverYourselfInChocolateGlory · 10/06/2022 07:29

Contact the schools you like to find out if they have available spaces. Then when you move you can apply directly for that school via the local authority and have a much higher chance of being accepted. It's usually a bit different as an 'in-year' application.

Hedonism · 10/06/2022 07:38

Iwantmyoldnameback · 10/06/2022 06:20

I think if my child had had problems and was now settled I would not be moving him.

This.

I don't think you've said what year he's in, but could the move wait until he's due to start secondary?

Goldfishmountainclimber · 10/06/2022 16:12

My thought was not to move your child if he is happy and settled now. That is so important after an unhappy start.

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