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to think I shouldn't be quitting and to ask WWYD with an aggressor in the office

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lovemyjobbuthatemyoffice · 09/06/2022 14:04

I've name changed for this as it is rather sensitive.

I absolutely love my job and am very good at it. I work in a traditionally white male and highly competitive industry. As a woman of colour I have navigated the industry relatively successfully over the years, but it changed a few years ago.

After a run-of-the-mill work disagreement, a colleague (let's call him "Ben") approached me after work. He was drinking in a pub which is located between my office and the tube station. I stopped there for a quick drink with someone from my team and was leaving, when this man stood in my way. Ben was extremely aggressive, telling me to watch my back, he told me that I was so disliked that bad things could happen to me after work, etc. He did not touch me with his hands but he kept moving uncomfortably close to me, our bodies touching. I kept stepping back, I kept telling him that I did not want to continue with the conversation, but he continued to step forward and lean over me. At the time there were two other male colleagues who saw the situation but did not listen to the conversation. I turned to them and said 'Can you see that this man this threatening me?', to which they laughed and said that if I ever went to HR they would deny this has happened. When I said to them that instead of HR I would go to police, they all became quiet and then one of the other colleagues took me to a separate room and had a long conversation, basically saying how Ben was a good guy, had too much to drink and that I should think about his family - the usual. He also proposed that he would take me and Ben for lunch the next day and we would sort it all out among ourselves. The lunch never happened.

At that time I was already suffering from the overall hostility of my office and already had MH issues, so I felt ablsolutely powerless and did not act on it at the time. Without going into too much detail, I knew that HR and my boss would not support me, at the same time I did not feel strong enough to go to police. Several days after the indecent, Ben approached me asking why I was avoiding him and I told him that I would not report him to HR if he agrees to keep all conversations to professional topics and that I would never meet him without other colleagues present.

That situation has been haunting me ever since. Having been assaulted in my teenage years, I developed a strong PTSD, which was partly alleviated during the pandemic, when I could work from home. Now that we are in hybrid working mode, I again started struggling with panic attacks, which can be quite debilitating. I am seeing specialists for the medical side of things, but it is quite difficult for me because I continue to be triggered on a regular basis.

I continue to work with Ben, who goes around telling everyone what a feminist he is and how much he wants to make the work a better place for his daughters. I avoid having any 'personal' chats or one-on-one meetings with Ben. However, recently he approached one of my juniors complaining that he is not able to have a 'good' working relationship with me because I avoid him. Recently he called me on my personal mobile asking if I was ok. This provoked a major panic attack in me, but first I managed to blurt out to him that I was not OK and that I was still dealing with the aftermath of his threatening me after work. He seems to have completely forgotten the incident and he kept repeating 'I don't know what to say'.

I love my job, I am really good at it, so I don't think I should be changing jobs. Any advice at all on how I could handle this?

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SurfBox · 10/06/2022 09:31

I suspect someone's commented on the fact you appear to keep your distance from him and now he's panicking the assault will finally come out

it's not assault though, completely unacceptable verbal abuse but very different from assault.

daddyorchipsdaddyorchips · 10/06/2022 09:45

SurfBox · 10/06/2022 09:31

I suspect someone's commented on the fact you appear to keep your distance from him and now he's panicking the assault will finally come out

it's not assault though, completely unacceptable verbal abuse but very different from assault.

Actually, it was assault.

Common assault (section 39, Criminal Justice Act 1988)
A person is guilty of common assault if they either inflict violence on another person – however slight this might be – or make that person think they are about to be attacked.
They do not have to be physically violent – for example, threatening words or a raised fist could lead the victim to believe they are going to be attacked – and that is enough for the crime to have been committed. Other acts like spitting at someone may also classed as common assault.

https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/news/item/assault-offences-explained/

SurfBox · 10/06/2022 10:08

A person is guilty of common assault if they either inflict violence on another person – however slight this might be

Yea that would be manhandling or being physical, she clearly said he didn't touch her''

'' or make that person think they are about to be attacked''

yes but the latter is so hard to prove/so subjective that this is at most legal hocus pocus that looks fine on paper but would never stand up in court. You rarely if ever hear of assault cases whereby only words were used and no physical interaction happened unless they had a knife or gun.

Thelnebriati · 10/06/2022 12:06

@lovemyjobbuthatemyoffice Please don't rule out speaking to the Suzy Lamplugh Trust. They give advice about safety in this kind of situation.
Plus if he does escalate later on, you can show you had concerns. Its also about building a case, in the hope you never need to use it.

LadyEloise1 · 10/06/2022 13:49

@lovemyjobbuthatemyoffice
Did the person from your team who was with you in the pub see or hear anything at the time ?
Did they notice how upset you were ? Would they back you up?

People like Harvey Weinstein and Ghislaine Maxwell were jailed because brave women like you refused to be cowed. I am not saying the abuse/abuser are the same or similar in severity but just to show you that no one is untouchable.
I do believe that there is more support now for people who call out misogynistic behaviour.

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