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To he really annoyed by this

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Lovelycupofcoffee · 08/06/2022 06:52

So long story cut short I’ve worked for my company for 24 years and had to work my way up to be in a salary of 25k .The new account manager who starts soon is on a starting salary of £25k. So it looks to me like staying within company for all this time counts for nothing . Am I being silly and just need to walk away and leave it

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KangarooKenny · 08/06/2022 06:53

Presumably the new person is coming in at a higher level than you did, and has experience elsewhere, so I don’t see the problem.

HotToddyColdSauvignon · 08/06/2022 06:53

Well we need a bit more info OP…

is the account manager the same level as you? Did you start as the janitor etc?

hkw often do you have pay reviews and demand your worth?

MichelleScarn · 08/06/2022 06:53

Are you also an account manager? They may also be coming across with skills and experience just not your company.

Natty13 · 08/06/2022 06:55

If you left your company tomorrow and got a similar job elsewhere would you be on 25k because of your experience? If so, what's to stop one of your new colleagues complaining about the same thing?

Howshouldibehave · 08/06/2022 06:55

Are you also an account manager? What qualifications do you and this person have?

magaluf1999 · 08/06/2022 07:11

Unfortunately job hoppers are often better compensated then people who stay. Loyalty often goes unrewarded when you are seen as part of the furniture who would never leave.

It does sound like a low salary for
Someone with that much experience in a business but its hard to say more without context. Do you get annual rises?

You could find out your value in the market and then request a rise. If not know your worth and dont allow them to underpay you.

ImTheToothFairy · 08/06/2022 07:21

My DH had to leave the company he was with since he was 17 (started on 16k) at 26 when on 35k to only go back and be paid the going salary for his skills of 50k. It was really shit that they didn't show enough appreciation for him at the time.

When he went back, he got promotion after promotion until he was 80k and then took his skills else where, earning even more money at 33.

Moral of the story is that sadly sometimes you do have to leave to find your worth.

TigerRag · 08/06/2022 07:22

Do you know how much previous experience they have?

FredaFox · 08/06/2022 07:34

You don't give enough detail, are they coming in at the same job role as you? Different?
Did you start at entry level? What firs entry level pay now?
What industry?

tanstaafl · 08/06/2022 07:39

as a pp mentioned, when you’ve stayed there for years you’ll be known as someone for whom money isn’t the motivating reason you’re doing the job.

is that true for you OP?

resuwen · 08/06/2022 07:43

I am in the process of leaving my job, which I've been in for 8 years, for a new role, with a big salary uplift. I feel like a bit of a mug for sticking with it for so long! People who are prepared to move around a bit earn more. Sounds like it's time for you to move elsewhere.

Onthelowdown · 08/06/2022 08:00

where I work we adjust our salary ranges annually and ours have increased more than usual this year because of the increased cost of living and competitiveness of the job market. I could understand your frustration if they would be paid more than you but to pay the same as you just seems fair

Mangogogogo · 08/06/2022 08:32

An account manager on £25k doesn’t sound like your company pay particularly well anyway!! That’s ridiculous for management

10HailMarys · 08/06/2022 12:07

Just because someone is new to your company, that doesn't mean they're new to the job they're doing. If they have relevant experience and are performing at the same level as you, they should be on the same salary.

There's no reason that, just because you worked up to a management role from the bottom, you should then be paid more for that management role than someone who made quicker progress.

LadyCatStark · 08/06/2022 12:21

£25k is very low for an account manager anyway, so for that reason I’d look elsewhere.

Mally100 · 08/06/2022 12:21

Why did it take 24 years to get to that salary? Have you improved your skills and qualifications during that time? Maybe this person is coming in with all of that already?

Gettingthingsdone777 · 08/06/2022 12:30

Lovelycupofcoffee · 08/06/2022 06:52

So long story cut short I’ve worked for my company for 24 years and had to work my way up to be in a salary of 25k .The new account manager who starts soon is on a starting salary of £25k. So it looks to me like staying within company for all this time counts for nothing . Am I being silly and just need to walk away and leave it

Unfortunately loyalty doesn’t count for anything at all from what I’ve seen. Sadly it’s sometimes viewed as a person not going anywhere else because no one else will have them (this is silly but unfortunately it can be a view wrongly shared by an employee because they don’t know their worth) but it’s most likely not at all personal they just see you as a sure thing.

If you really want to stay, I would ask for a significant raise, but I think you would be better off finding pastures new. Do make sure you are going to be working with people you like and respect in the new place though before you jump, you obviously must like your current role if you’re there so long so be as sure as you can be that the change will be worth it.

SunshineAndFizz · 08/06/2022 12:44

In my experience, when people get promoted internally they often get put on the bottom of the pay band, whereas external people negotiate more and tend to come into the company on a higher wage.

If this person is doing the exact same job as you, on the same salary you can't really complain.

If you think you're underpaid however, make a case to your boss or find something new.

Hawkins001 · 08/06/2022 12:50

I Understand your perspectives and frustrations op, but need more details

fishingpaintings · 08/06/2022 12:54

I think YABU, but we need more details: your job level, what you started as, type of industry. Loyalty is not really rewarded with pay - job related skills, experience and knowledge are. Do you match this person's skills?

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Lovelycupofcoffee · 08/06/2022 19:16

Money isn’t my main motivation for staying if I’m being honest. I’ve had some awful jobs/ bosses isn’t one of them. But we are now owned by a bigger company and it has changed. I did ask for a pay rise at the tail end of last year but they didn’t give the amount I asked for . I think it’s time for me to see what’s out there . The new guy starting has experience in a reseller role whereas we are a distributor. Apparently he has worked for a few I.e moved around a bit . My role is currently new business and bringing on / growing new accounts.

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Fcuk38 · 08/06/2022 19:28

Honestly I think you should be annoyed at yourself that it’s taken 24 years for you to reach £25k!!! Why have you not looked elsewhere?

Aprilx · 08/06/2022 19:46

I think you are being unreasonable to expect to be paid based on your tenure. If you had wanted a higher salary you could have done something about it (extra qualifications, negotiate, purse external opportunities etc) rather than sit for 24 years waiting for payrise.

It is not a great salary anyway and I am not sure how the company would manage to attract a new “account manager” paying much less.

gfyito · 08/06/2022 19:49

24 years to get 25k?! Where do you work, at the back end of nowhere?!

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Lovelycupofcoffee · 08/06/2022 19:50

Fcuk38-As mentioned money isn’t the main factor for me . The job is local so when my son was tiny it fitted in with school etc etc. I’m on more than £25k now as I fought for a rise last year. Still didn’t get what I asked for though . I know I need to look around and leave before it’s to late .

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