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AIBU to ask how to manage relationships with people who have very different views?

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Mirrorsforyou · 05/06/2022 17:23

Prompted by a conversation I had a few weeks ago which is still bugging me.

Background: My DD is six months into her first proper relationship. Her girlfriend is absolutely lovely - kind, sweet, funny, polite, but most importantly DD is happy being with her. GF stayed the night last month - not the first time, but previously she has caught a bus home so I have never met her parents, apart from a brief phone call with her mum.

GF’s dad came to pick her up and was friendly and chatty, but what he was saying made it really obvious that we have very different viewpoints on some things which I think are quite important. For a start he was telling me about his good friend who offered him a spare room for a couple of months while he looked for a new flat and he was proudly telling me that the “couple of months” had turned into over a year and he was not even thinking of moving out because he was able to pay his friend hardly anything. His friend has two children and a third on the way and they live in a two bed house. GF’s dad laughed when he said that friend’s wife wanted him out, but he wasn’t going to go and his friend wasn’t going to make him so she would just have to deal. To add insult to injury, he said the main reason he liked living there was because he hardly had to pay anything, so he had been able to leave his old job and take a lower-paid, fewer-hours one so that he wouldn’t have to pay his children’s mother as much maintenance.

I am trying to balance what he said about maintenance by the fact that he was the parent who dropped off and picked up GF, so he is at least an involved parent. Which I know is a pretty fucking low bar, but it’s more than my DC’s dad ever managed.

Then we got on to talking about sixth form and university. DD has been thinking about what courses she wants to apply for and which universities might be possible, and she has spoken quite a lot about what GF was thinking too. As far as I can tell from what DD says, GF is doing well at sixth form and should get a place at uni if that’s what she wants to do. GF’s dad wants her to leave sixth form this summer (end of year 12) and get a job in Tesco. He said there’s no point in her wasting her time doing any more learning because she isn’t going to university anyway.

I didn’t challenge him at all on what he said. How he lives his life is none of my business and GF is not my daughter. But I’ve got an arsehole ex who wriggles out of paying maintenance whenever he can, although he finds it easy enough to pay for three foreign holidays a year. Plus I like GF, I think she’s got the potential and the desire to learn, and so I would like her to go to uni if she wants - or at least be able to get her A levels. It all got under my skin and I don’t much want to have any more conversations with him.

Obviously I have not said anything like this to my daughter and never would. Equally obviously I am a complete fool for thinking that any future in-laws (I know he is not an actual in-law, but I couldn’t think how else to phrase it easily) would probably have views similar to my own. So how do I make this work? I have read so many threads about judgmental interfering nightmare MIL who push their DC away and I do not want to be one of those, but also I feel that this kind of bullshit should be called out and would like to know when I need to be brave enough to do it. Should I have challenged him? Or ignore? I am not good with conflict and would prefer to avoid difficult situations, but realise that this may not be supportive of DC in the future.

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MRex · 05/06/2022 17:31

They are kids still, don't be planning a future that may never happen. It isn't so much a difference of politics but of morals because he's a knob; best you can do is smile politely and minimise engagement. You might still like the mum, though try not to give judgement on either side as things might get back and cause problems. It's fine to continue to talk to both girls about educational options, adults don't need their parents' permission to go to uni and again, you might find the mum has different hopes.

DogsAndGin · 05/06/2022 17:47

It doesn’t sound like your DD’s GF has expressed any radically different views. You can’t judge her based on her parents - my parents have never met my DH’s parents and we very much hope it will stay that way, as they are so very different and it would likely get nasty. Yet DH and I have loads of views in common. I wouldn’t worry about it

DogsAndGin · 05/06/2022 17:48

And also, it’s not all about uni - there are other options out there and frankly a lot of courses are no longer worth the debt

withgraceinmyheart · 05/06/2022 18:17

I don’t think anything you’ve said impacts on you or your Dd. It’s good that you’ve got a bit context of what gf is dealing with in her family, it might mean you handle conversations with her a bit differently. On the other hand it might not.

Lots of people have arsehole parents. Lots of people don’t their partners parents at all. Definitely not your place to challenge him about anything.

FollowTheLizards · 05/06/2022 18:18

Equally obviously I am a complete fool for thinking that any future in-laws (I know he is not an actual in-law, but I couldn’t think how else to phrase it easily) would probably have views similar to my own. So how do I make this work? By separating out the different relationships you have within your life and accepting that all the different elements don't necessarily need to align. For example, I have a very different set of beliefs to my own mother, but just change the subject when she brings up a subject I know we disagree on.

With regard to your 'DIL' of course you can have the conversation with her that you think she's bright and should look into further education if that's something that interests her. You just leave out the part where you think her Dad is a bit of an ignorant knob Wink

Ownedbymycats · 05/06/2022 19:08

I don't think I'd have any depth conversation with him, keep it bright and breezy and perhaps don't be around when he picks her up.

Trainbear · 05/06/2022 19:09

What matters - being right or being happy?

Mirrorsforyou · 05/06/2022 19:35

Trainbear, that’s a false dichotomy. Like most people, I’m happier when I’m right and unhappy when I’m wrong. In this situation, neither option would have made me happy: I don’t like conflict and would not want to annoy him by saying that I think he’s wrong, but equally I don’t like listening to someone boast about cheating his children’s mother out of maintenance. And perhaps neither option would have been right either.

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Mirrorsforyou · 05/06/2022 19:54

Thanks, all. I have found the responses helpful. I’m actually wondering why I feel so strongly that parental in-law relationships have to be friendly. Thinking about most people I know, parents barely know each other and those who do know each other are either really good friends or despise each other - and it’s a 50-50 split. As long as I can get on well with DC’s partners, I shouldn’t care what dodgy views their parents might hold.

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NoSquirrels · 05/06/2022 19:59

DD’s GF’s father is obviously a bellend. I’d be thinking poor her, and looking out to give more support to her for her ambitions for the future, providing encouragement and an alternative viewpoint and whatever practical help might be useful.

If he’s mooching off his mate, obviously her mum chucked him out so she’s probably not of the same opinions as him. And DD’s GF can’t be living with him, so his influence will be not as great as he thinks. What an arse.

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