When do you stop needing to bring buggy / stroller ?

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My girl will be 2 and a half in July.. I have a newborn too.

Anyway I've been trying to work out how to take them both out together. It's tricky.

She's still at the stage where she'll just drop to her knees and lie on the floor if you're not walking where she wants to go... she does it a lot / runs off. We've not had that much practice at these things. Due to being pregnant etc I didn't take her out that much for a while, as I simply wasn't strong enough to wrestle with her.

Can someone explain 1. How do you deal with them in public when they throw themselves on the floor ?

1. How long can you take the buggy with you to restrain them etc ?

I am considering taking a trip abroad alone with both.. not sure how I'll wing it at the airport. I last took her abroad at 18 months and she nearly killed me and herself on an escalator..

Basically, how do I get her to behave better when we are out and about ?

DD was 3and a half before we could reliably ditch the buggy and even then we had to be mindful of distances and allow for plenty of breaks in walks.

With a 2 and a half yo and a newborn id say a double buggy will be needed for another year. You could then move to a buggy with a buggy board for when your oldest needs a lift.

I was thinking double buggy !! But wasn't sure if my older one is too big. It would really, really, really help !

Or one of those buggy board things you attach to the pram and the toddler has a little bike seat.. although I prefer double buggy as she can be strapped in.

Double buggy definitely. I kept mine until DC1 was nearly 3 and used the spare space for shopping, bags etc. if they were walking. They are never too old to be in a buggy if it makes your life easier!

My boy is 2.5 and I'll be using the pushchair as long as possible. It's so useful when he gets tired or grumpy and I know already I'll miss being able to put shopping etc under the seat. My husband doesn't use it when he takes him out and he ends up having to carry him plus bags.

Depends on the type of outing tbh (I have a 2.5yo but no newborn). Only take the buggy on longer trips now.

With a newborn I’d get a lightweight double buggy, or a buggy board at least.

Sling sling sling sling! The answer to all toddler/baby logistics problems!

We have a 2.5yr old and a newborn - for short trips I put the baby in the buggy and toddler walks, for longer trips baby goes in the sling and toddler in the buggy.

Double buggy for sure! Out n about double nipper is fab. Think they're about £500 new if you get the carrycot too but you don't actually need that as it lies flat. They come up all the time second hand for much less and are total workhorses and last forever. Also very narrow and fit through most doorways. Even if your 2yo chooses to walk a bit it's fine to push with just one in it and to load up with bags etc. I also have a buggyboard but DD can be a bit hit or miss whether she'll actually go on it and it's quite annoying to push the pram with it on without kicking it. But it serves a purpose!

Re sling, maybe for some but if you struggle wrestling DD while pregnant then imagine it would be the same with a newborn strapped to your chest

I think there’s 2 factors. Using the buggy for transporting your child a distance (and all the stuff) and using it to keep your child strapped in to stop them escaping!

My DS was definitely able to walk most distances in our regular life by 3. Unless it was a big day out or a long walk. However he was a runner, and with a second child I definitely needed some way to contain him safely until he was a bit older. Double buggy was a definite lifesaver for me, although sometimes the baby in sling and toddler in single buggy was a good combo!

Sling + buggy
Or
Pram + buggy board
You can encourage the older one to walk but you have to be realistic about their stamina.

DD is nearly 3.5 and we've only just recently ditched the buggy.

DD was about three and a half when we stopped using the buggy on a regular basis but we lived at the top of a very big hill and she was a delayed walker, so often she could not walk all the way up to our house (or take forever). We sold the buggy when DD just before she turned four but we were moving 200 miles so it was a good opportunity to get rid.

We had a similar age gap and also recommend a second hand double buggy - it was very useful and made life easier for a couple of years.

DD was just over 2 but she's never been an absconder She's always been very good at holding hands and walking.

We've got a buggy board for number 2 arriving, more to do with safety if we are beside a road as it will be awkward holding hands and pushing the pram on some of the narrow pavements around us, so I'm hoping she'll just hop on that for those bits.

DD is 3.5 and we went away this week without the pram and I regretted it! Just so much easier if they get tired or you need to take lots of stuff.

If she is a bolter, get some reins.

I had 2.8 years between mine, the double buggy didn't really get used much. But I used reins for the older one a lot!

Double buggy

Blimey dd1 was out of the buggy by 17 months when dd2 came along! She did used to like walking and we didn’t really travel far when it was just the dc and I. At weekends when we were out and about she went on someone’s shoulders if she was tired but rarely as she really did just like walking and refused to get in the buggy by the time dc2 was born anyway.
mil bought us a buggy board but dd1 didn’t like it and I found it clunky and just in the way.

Thechosentwo DC1 was also out of her buggy by 19 months but with a newborn and no car if they got tired I was buggered - once tried this and some woman had to get out of her car and help me home (only a few minutes away) as I was struggling carrying my napping 2 year old and asleep 7 month old in the pushchair.

Yeah my daughter is hard to control. I don't know what to do or how to change it at the moment.

I was thinking about getting the double yo-yo baby zen with connector. They're so easy to put away and can go on a plane ( without newborn bassinet )

Sling for newborn , single buggy for toddler for as long as it is needed or double buggy.You only have two hands and will have handbag, nappies, shopping etc.I hated the double buggy but they are convenient if you are shopping or having to hurry anywhere. It does depend a bit on your lifestyle ; but even if you use the car a lot for errands having a baby and a toddler means that you are almost certainly going to be out for a walk or going to the park a lot and if baby is snoozing you don't want to disrupt them by wrestling with your toddler.

Check out the stroller workshop on youtube for why the babyzen yoyo connector is a bad idea, . Mounting curbs is a nightmare.

We got a secondhand out n about double for £20 for those one off times when DC1 cant be trusted to walk but otherwise do a combo of buggy/sling, pram/walk with our main buggy. DC1 has reins on his backpack for nursery too.

Double buggy and then progress to a buggy board when she's old enough. But also invest in some reins! Even at 2.5 she shouldn't be able to just run off, it's dangerous!