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Pull out method when not in a committed relationship

54 replies

thisiswhatyoucamefor · 03/06/2022 17:20

My sister (39) has been dating a man (33) for 6 months. It's early days and they are 'seeing how it goes'. Yesterday she told me they use the pull out method. My sister is not on any contraception (and has made him aware that abortion is a no go).

Although he is not pauper (he is a very young professor), my sister is well off (£2m assets) and something just seems fishy to me but my sister won't hear any of it.

AIBU or am I correct in that this guy is trying to impregnate her $?

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2022again · 03/06/2022 18:07

personally i'd bin any man straight away if they insisted on no condoms in a casual relationship ...has she not heard of STD's.

diddl · 03/06/2022 18:08

Even if he doesn't want to use condoms that doesn't stop your sister using contraception.

Him pressuring her is obviously a very bad sign though.

How long since she split from her abusive ex?

Perhaps she could do with some relationship free time?

babyjellyfish · 03/06/2022 18:08

I think it sounds like your sister wants him to impregnate her tbh.

Sushi7 · 03/06/2022 18:08

Abortion is a “no go” but apparently she’s had 2 abortions in the past? I think she’s hoping to “accidentally” get pregnant. She’s 39 so chances are slim but obviously not impossible. They need to use condoms if they don’t want a baby.

DemBonesDemBones · 03/06/2022 18:10

@Unanananana and yet it's been used successfully forever 😬

thisiswhatyoucamefor · 03/06/2022 18:10

I am concerned for her because of what happened with her fiance. The truth only recently came out, we knew he put her in hospital but we only recently discovered that he left with thousands of pounds of her money in a joint account. He was very charming in the beginning but also a very coercive man too.

To the PP who mentioned she is going along with it because she feels she can't refuse; yes. My initial reaction was she feared she may lose him if she didn't please him.

She has been in therapy since she was hospitalised so I don't believe she is ready for a baby.

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Blaze1886 · 03/06/2022 18:11

Sounds like your sister is okay with it. Not sure why you're so concerned about somebody else's sex life

picklemewalnuts · 03/06/2022 18:13

Re. your concern about his intentions, she's more at risk from marrying him or being in a relationship with him, than from falling pregnant.

Him getting her pregnant doesn't force her to pay him child support, or let him move in with her. She can still choose to go it alone. Of course he may want contact, which might eventually be 50/50, but he can't insist she support him, let him move in, or anything else.

If she's at risk of being generally coerced by him, then that's a separate issue to her getting pregnant. Try and help her build up her resilience if you can. Has she done the freedom programme?

starlingdarling · 03/06/2022 18:16

I'd be more concerned about getting an STI than pregnant when not in a committed relationship.

thisiswhatyoucamefor · 03/06/2022 18:18

She is currently living with me and DH since she began therapy, so I do feel quite responsible for her.

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frogswimming · 03/06/2022 18:18

I agree, sounds like she wants or at least doesn't mind getting pregnant. Do you have any worries about him? Do you just think he's a gold digger because he's got less money or because there are red flags in his behaviour?

TheLadyDIdGood · 03/06/2022 18:20

Have they both tested for std's because that would be my primary concern. If this is his preference with your sister then it would have been his preferred method with other women. That's where you venture into HIV & STD territory and potential health issues.

Carrietaurus · 03/06/2022 18:22

I'd say your sister is in yet another abusive relationship. She should get rid of him.

MintyCedricRidesAgain · 03/06/2022 18:23

My SIL and BIL had a similar age gap and she was in a better position career/finances wise when conceived their first child (planned) about 6 months after meeting.

24 years and a second child later they are married and probably the happiest and most mutually supportive couple I know.

Could just be a case of 'when it's right it's right'.

Have you met him? Are there any other reasons for your concerns about him?

thisiswhatyoucamefor · 03/06/2022 18:24

There are no red flags other than the fact I think it is highly irresponsible for 2 supposedly intelligent adults to engage in unprotected sex in this form without being in a committed relationship. It just makes me question his motivations. Not sure if relevant, but my sister is very attractive and my complete opposite. She is a slim leggy blonde with curves. In her professional life she owns a makeup brand, so is very good at making herself look good.

Both got tested before they went unprotected.

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skyeisthelimit · 03/06/2022 18:25

A lot of men don't like using anything. If she is happy to accept that, and not use any other contraceptive then she must know the risk.

If she doesn't want to get pregant, she should be using some other form

MintyCedricRidesAgain · 03/06/2022 18:27

I can certainly understand your concerns given your subsequent posts and it's definitely worth keeping an eye on. Unfortunately I'm not sure what you could do about it though.

Iflyaway · 03/06/2022 18:30

Why is it your business?

To me it seems creepy a family member being so involved.

JanglyBeads · 03/06/2022 18:33

I'd wonder whether he was pressuring her in other ways too.

Would also sit her down and help her think through what getting pregnant with this man might be like.

TheLadyDIdGood · 03/06/2022 18:41

Your sister needs to do the online programme to help her recognise red flags and abusive behaviour. It looks like she doesn't have strict boundaries & is keen to please subsequent partners.

TheLadyDIdGood · 03/06/2022 18:42

Online freedom programme

Nocutenamesleft · 03/06/2022 18:49

She’s an adult

she obviously knows the risks.

takes two to make a baby

I haven’t heard the word Pauper for years!!! Centuries really. Lols

thistimewontyousaveme · 03/06/2022 18:58

yeah right. as if your sister would be talking to you about her sex life and talking about the pull out method

picklemewalnuts · 03/06/2022 21:11

thisiswhatyoucamefor · 03/06/2022 18:24

There are no red flags other than the fact I think it is highly irresponsible for 2 supposedly intelligent adults to engage in unprotected sex in this form without being in a committed relationship. It just makes me question his motivations. Not sure if relevant, but my sister is very attractive and my complete opposite. She is a slim leggy blonde with curves. In her professional life she owns a makeup brand, so is very good at making herself look good.

Both got tested before they went unprotected.

But you said "he has been insisting on no condoms due to lack of sensation/ability to cum when using them and has piled the pressure on."

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