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AIBU to be annoyed with the NHS that they misdiagnosed me at my colposcopy??

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Onlyrainbows · 01/06/2022 23:25

While visiting my family abroad, I've taken the opportunity to get some second opinions on a couple of my conditions... Both of them need completely different treatment but what really annoys me is that during my colposcopy thy missed a huge section with severe abnormalities. And that was on the 10th of May so it's not like it just showed up. I need urgent surgery that can't wait the 12 months that the NHS is telling me to wait. So am I being unreasonable for being annoyed with them? PS if anybody knows if ways to convince them that I need the surgery rather than having to fly back over here I'm all ears

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Thedogshouses · 02/06/2022 07:32

Fordian · 01/06/2022 23:48

Are you medically trained? Genuine question.

Why are you so defensive? Why defend a sack of shit system that kills people. I had to fly my relative out of the UK to get them treated for pneumonia. The dippy nurse told her over the phone she probably had heartburn she was 2 weeks in hospital here. I'm suing the dopey batch.

purplesequins · 02/06/2022 08:29

you need a report from the drs and then go to your gp for 2ww referral.
if you can get imaging on cd. lab results etc.

good luck!

curcurbita · 02/06/2022 08:39

Thedogshouses · 02/06/2022 07:32

Why are you so defensive? Why defend a sack of shit system that kills people. I had to fly my relative out of the UK to get them treated for pneumonia. The dippy nurse told her over the phone she probably had heartburn she was 2 weeks in hospital here. I'm suing the dopey batch.

Maybe because the OP has gone for a goady post title blaming the entire NHS for something that may or may not have been an error. Given it doesn't sound like a biopsy has been done of the area in question it's just as possible the NHS doctor was right and the doctor abroad is wrong, or that the country the OP is in has different guidelines for treatment (which are not necessarily better).

lameasahorse · 02/06/2022 09:17

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Ariela · 02/06/2022 09:57

Why can't you get a report from the specialist where you are, with their diagnosis and recommendations, and give it to your GP when you get back?

Katya213 · 02/06/2022 10:27

Onlyrainbows · 02/06/2022 01:24

Nope, I won't have to for surgery. As I have no private insurance, they'll do it in a public one and I won't pay a penny, but I'll have to fly back.

Really?

DamnUserName21 · 02/06/2022 11:19

Well, as you won't have to pay for it and you feel the 2nd Dr is right, it's a no-brainer---have it done there.
Saves you having to wait in the UK.

MissNothing1991 · 02/06/2022 11:29

Onlyrainbows · 01/06/2022 23:56

No, I'm not medically trained but the oncologist showed me, I mean it definitely looks different.

Yet you know its textbook severe abnormalities, with no medical training? Give over. You're starting to sound like a hypochondriac

lameasahorse · 02/06/2022 11:49

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Onlyrainbows · 02/06/2022 13:20

You don't seem to understand any of my post... I'm not even from Poland and have nothing to do with Poland. I know the medical terms of what the colposcopies (not scans) have found, but seems over fluffing this thread.

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Onlyrainbows · 02/06/2022 13:20

MissNothing1991 · 02/06/2022 11:29

Yet you know its textbook severe abnormalities, with no medical training? Give over. You're starting to sound like a hypochondriac

The doctor literally showed me :/

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Onlyrainbows · 02/06/2022 13:22

Ariela · 02/06/2022 09:57

Why can't you get a report from the specialist where you are, with their diagnosis and recommendations, and give it to your GP when you get back?

Yes, that's the plan. I've been in touch with Macmillan and they've told me what the report should say.

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Onlyrainbows · 02/06/2022 13:24

PS it's not Poland and have never mentioned Poland. Speaking to another ObGyn she did say colposcopies are to an extent subject to whatever they can see when doing them.

I could go for a third opinion, but that just seems like a total waist of time.

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MissNothing1991 · 02/06/2022 13:28

Onlyrainbows · 02/06/2022 13:20

The doctor literally showed me :/

My daughter showed me how she likes to design houses with lego... does that make me an architect now?

You cannot say its 'textbook severe abnormalities' and come across like you're a bloody medical expert just because one person shows you a scan and says it ffs. What 'textbook severe abnormalities' have you personally seen before to compare it to?

Thedogshouses · 02/06/2022 14:29

What a massively bitchy thread. It's only people who travel.oit of their little bubble that have any idea how shit their beloved NHS is. Time to face it, it's a shambles and kills people. Attacking this innocent person and name calling isn't going to make it better any more than your saucepan banging did.

Oblomov22 · 02/06/2022 14:46

Get a report from this Dr. Go back to GP, and ask for a second opinion. Go in with your report.

Oblomov22 · 02/06/2022 14:57

Are you a Doctor / medically trained? Assumes OP in in Poland?

Christ, some of the assumptions on this thread are disgusting.

Onlyrainbows · 02/06/2022 15:11

MissNothing1991 · 02/06/2022 13:28

My daughter showed me how she likes to design houses with lego... does that make me an architect now?

You cannot say its 'textbook severe abnormalities' and come across like you're a bloody medical expert just because one person shows you a scan and says it ffs. What 'textbook severe abnormalities' have you personally seen before to compare it to?

The analogy is a non sequitur. I never said I draw the conclusion the doctor was just showing me how my cells look now and how there is no mistake and that they have grade 2 abnormalities.

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Theluggage15 · 02/06/2022 15:18

Unfortunately a lot of U.K. people live in a bubble, thinking the NHS is superior to all other countries when actually it’s embarrassingly bad. I know you’re not Polish but two of my Polish friends have been treated in Poland because the NHS is such a shambles. The NHS would quite happily have left one of them in severe pain.

AchatAVendre · 02/06/2022 15:20

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I think a medical negligence solicitor might be an example of someone who is not medically trained but has to have an ability to interpret medical scans...

Can anyone explain to me why Poland is being mentioned on this thread? I'm currently in France and its well known here that the NHS treatment is brutal.

OP - if you want to get the NHS defenders really going, mention the possibility of going to Turkey...

Katya213 · 02/06/2022 15:28

Theluggage15 · 02/06/2022 15:18

Unfortunately a lot of U.K. people live in a bubble, thinking the NHS is superior to all other countries when actually it’s embarrassingly bad. I know you’re not Polish but two of my Polish friends have been treated in Poland because the NHS is such a shambles. The NHS would quite happily have left one of them in severe pain.

Yes, like give antibiotics for a cold and a hefty price. Money. Money. Money!

AchatAVendre · 02/06/2022 15:42

Katya213 · 02/06/2022 15:28

Yes, like give antibiotics for a cold and a hefty price. Money. Money. Money!

But the NHS also fails to give you antibiotics when you have pneumonia (my experience), if you get a kidney stone that won't come out, they will catheterise you for ages along with all the discomfort and likely infections that causes, rather than give you surgery to remove the stone. If you have cataracts in your eyes, the NHS will only remove one because you don't really need 2 eyes. Oh and if you're a woman, they will tell you to go away and stop weight bearing rather than giving you knee surgery.

Its honestly the most expensive healthcare system in the world, because many people end up paying twice - once through tax and then a second time to actually get treatment.

lameasahorse · 02/06/2022 16:19

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Soontobe60 · 02/06/2022 16:32

AchatAVendre · 02/06/2022 15:42

But the NHS also fails to give you antibiotics when you have pneumonia (my experience), if you get a kidney stone that won't come out, they will catheterise you for ages along with all the discomfort and likely infections that causes, rather than give you surgery to remove the stone. If you have cataracts in your eyes, the NHS will only remove one because you don't really need 2 eyes. Oh and if you're a woman, they will tell you to go away and stop weight bearing rather than giving you knee surgery.

Its honestly the most expensive healthcare system in the world, because many people end up paying twice - once through tax and then a second time to actually get treatment.

Absolute rubbish. Pneumonia needs antibiotics, which ARE given in my experience.
I had knee surgery on the NHS within 6 weeks of seeing the consultant, my MIL had her cataracts removed, one at a time as per protocol but within a month of each other. My FIL had a kidney stone removed 2 days after presenting at A+E

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