Poorly puppy

[Dillydalli]

Hi, I bought a puppy last week and he's got kennel cough, I've not had him round any dogs yet.
The day I picked him up the breeder rang me before I set off to say he's started with a cough and shed managed to get a same day appointment for him so I waited to hear back from her, about an hour and half maybe 2 hours later she rang to say the vet had said it's just a simple cough and is okay, the vet had given him an injection with antibiotics and some antibiotics to take home. She rang me to say she wanted to treat him with her and I could get him in a week's time when he was better or if he got worse she could take him back to the vets. But she sent a photo and I just wanted him home so badly to bond with my older dog so I said I wanted to collect still and I'd medicate him so I picked him up that day.( I know it was stupid of me) She said he had been vaccinated for kennel cough and gave me evidence of that. But now I've had to take him to my vets and they say it's kennel cough and I have a vet bill to pay now, the breeder is saying she's not giving me any money towards it as she offered to keep him till he was better and that she knocked £50 off the price I paid for him as he wasn't 100% but he's now also given my other dog kennel cough too!
Would I be unreasonable to take her to small claims court or is it my fault for taking him anyway and she's within her rights not give me money?

Because she was going to be paying his vet bills anyway so what's changed? Why should she now not pay. She said how does she know he's had his medication from the vets and if he had remained with her she would have known he'd have had them and been less stressed as he would have been still with his mum and one of his siblings. But I just don't agree he has had his medication and is poorly still so she would still had to have taken him back to the vets as I have. She also says she probably wouldn't have taken him back to the vets as A. He's not finished his antibiotics and B. She said there is no cure so unless he was struggling to breathe she wouldn't have taken him back. But I felt like he was loosing his voice from coughing so much and now so is my other dog and I believe that his her fault. But after reading everyone's responses I'm getting the impression I'm wrong

😂😂😂😂never been to kennels so hasn’t got kennel cough
are you for real or some Russian bott to wind us up or are you really that stupid

You are very irresponsible and silly. You are not a good dog owner to neither your older dog nor your puppy.

This is why you should need a licence to have a dog. Some people are not fit owners.

This has to be a joke!

She offered to keep the sick dog until he was fit. Instead you negotiated a new deal and took the dog for a discount. You knew the risk you were taking and it's not her problem.

OP you are in the wrong here. The breeder has offered to do the right thing. They don't know what care the puppy has or hasn't had since being with you. From reading your posts, despite having another old dog, you clearly know very little about dogs.

They offered to do the right thing. You declined the offer. It's now on you.

Of course you’re wrong, and really irresponsible. Unbelievable.

’because he was cute!’ 🙄

There’s no impression that you’re wrong, you are wrong! Plain and simple. Very irresponsible on your use to go against breeders advice just because you’re impatient.

...so I can't even ask to return him and ask for my money back which any breeder should do

So....you couldn't wait to bring him home because he was so cute despite the fact that he would almost certainly infect your much older dog and now that you face the consequences of your stupidity, you want to give the pup back? I'm just hoping this tale of wilful ignorance and animal neglect isn't true.

The thing that's changed is that it's now your dog and your responsibility.
Wheres the claim? The seller gave you full and honest info and you chose to take the risk.
All dogs should be vaccinated against kennel cough. They can catch it out and about it's very contagious.
I'd expect you to be able to return the pup, but doubt you'd get a refund

OP you knew the puppy was ill.

Yes the breeder may have had to pay additional vet bills if they had stayed with them but then the breeder would have been in charge of the puppies health.

Whereas you are making decisions, wanting them to pay, knowing full well the puppy was ill when you insisted on taking him home.

On this occasion I think you have to own the cost because you made the decision to own the problem by insisting you took the puppy when they wanted to keep him until they knew he was in 100% health.

This 100% I cannot believe you were so stupid putting your existing dog at risk, and then having the cheek to think you could take the breeder to court for your own mistakes

Why is she lying ? kennel cough is quite mild with a quick recovery in most cases , but older dogs can suffer more.
You sound the unreasonable one not the breeder , you knowingly placed a highly contagious dog in your home with an unvaccinated dog and you want her to pay your vets bill , i'm no fan of breeders but in this case i can see why she's ignoring you .
I hope both dogs are soon well , but i am wondering if your thread is genuine !

Kennel cough is a risk when you bring in any new dog really, much like children getting colds when they go to nursery.

Expecting the breeder to pay for treatment over and above what they've already done is really unreasonable, they offered to keep the pup a week longer, they've seen the vet and paid for treatment and knocked some off the price.

What do you want on top of that, this breeder to pay all the puppies on going costs for life?

You should have had your existing dog vaccinated for kennel cough if them catching it would be an issue for you - it isn't included in annual vaccs because unless your dog is staying in kennels or you're bringing a new dog in, or attending frequent training classes its not a big deal and kennel cough is NOT a particularly big deal disease for most dogs, so the vaccine is optional, and in any case does not offer a years worth of protection and does not cover all strains.

Get a grip OP - this is part and parcel of dog owning - it is expensive, there are unexpected costs. If you can't afford those you shouldn't be getting another puppy!

It is genuine thread, I just weren't looking at it from their point of view and just my own. I'll just paying the bill and stop moaning about it

To be blunt you are more than wrong, you are a decent breeder's nightmare. She offered you a sensible solution but no, you had to have the puppy now because it's 'cute'. And now you want to sue the breeder? Good grief.
That being said for the sake of the puppy and your older dog get yourself onto Amazon (or ask your vet) and get hold of some Asbrip. It is an extremely effective cough mixture for dogs. Not cheap but one bottle should be enough for both dogs. Good luck.

You’re a right one aren’t you OP?

Introducing a sick puppy to your older dog then trying to convince yourself that this isn’t your fault (because believe me, you’re not convincing anyone else).

Your poor pets. Shame on you.

You're getting the impression that you're wrong..... Well that's a start.

Small claims court.... I would like to claim the money for vet bills for the sick dog that the breeder offered to keep until he was better but I said no.

You're being unreasonable AND ridiculous. You took a poorly pup who probably could have done with being in familiar surroundings with people they know, because you, like a child, couldn't wait. She did everything right, you're utterly delusional to even be thinking of small claims!!! She probably has comprehensive insurance and the vets bills wouldn't have cost her much bar the excess. You've made your bed.

YABVU

You are accusing her of lying without any proof and threatening court over something that you were aware of when you bought the puppy.

As others have said, vaccinations take some time to kick in, and they are never 100% so its perfectly possible for your puppy to have been vaccinated and still get it. It's also possible it was misdiagnosed by the vet or wasn't misdiagnosed but the symptoms were indicative of a standard cough at the time.

If you're going to accuse someone and threaten court action you really need to have proof she deliberately misled you eg a written statement from the vet that carried out the vaccination to state that it never happened, and a written note of their records that diagnosed kennel cough to the breeder so you can show this was willingly ignored.

Unless you get these you should be apologising for ignoring her advice and bringing a knowingly sick puppy into contact with an older dog

sorry but I can understand the breeders reluctance here. She gave you options and given dogs don’t often get regular coughs it wasn’t the best idea taking a coughing puppy round your existing dog. I think you just need to suck this up as you won’t get anywhere

The thing that’s ‘changed’ op is that she no longer has possession of the dog. You can’t pick up a sick dog and except the old owner to keep covering its vets fees. You’ve made and continue to keep making some very silly decisions. I feel sorry for both of these animals. And she’s not lying btw, she has absolutely no motive to lie considering she was happy to keep the pup and pay for the treatment when it was with her (which you should have let her do).