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Like the cat in the adage, her arse was wreathed in smiles

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CorvusPurpureus · 26/05/2022 22:46

An argument needs settling with my elderly father.

A family saying 'Like the cat in the adage - her arse was wreathed in smiles'.

It's been a family joke forever, meaning being a smug git/getting above yourself or unduly pleased with yourself. I know the Macbeth reference obviously, but the second half is eluding both me & Google.

Dad is insisting it's a legit quote. He's getting increasingly forgetful, which means he does hang on to things like this. He's told me it's Seneca (no - or at least I can't find it) & is really quite grumpy that I can't find him the reference.

My personal theory is that my rather fabulous grandmother cobbled it together from things she'd come across in different sources - she left school at 14, then read EVERYTHING & passed down her love of reading to her son (& me).

Anyone? I'm quite happy for it to be copyright grandma, 1950ish. It's quite poetical & I think it's rather cool that my brother & I both still say it to our kids.

It's seriously winding my dad up. I can't just say 'yes, dad, you're right. Seneca.'. He will obsessively try to find it online & get upset.

No diagnosis of dementia etc...but he's definitely slowing down in terms of his processing (early 80s), & getting increasingly infuriated when he can't recall/analyse stuff easily. He's a smart guy - working class background, multiple OU degrees, incredibly well read.

Currently he is fixated on this family phrase & insistent I can track it down for him.

I suspect it's a just a family idiom! But I promised him I'd ask. Anyone got a clue?!

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RedDiamond · 26/05/2022 22:53

Well I found this...

Cats on the rooftops, cats on the tiles,
Cats with syphilis, cats with piles,
Cats with their assholes wreathed with smiles
As they revel in the joys of fornication.

It is lyrics from a song but try as hard as I can, I cannot find out from Google what year it was written but it seems a popular song from 1976 maybe?

BlueTitSmilingAtMe · 26/05/2022 22:57

I found the same, but that it's a song from the 1940s, unknown lyricist.

Labracadabradoodle · 26/05/2022 23:00

I think it may be from an old drinking song.
www.horntip.com/html/songs_sorted_by_name/with_music/c/cats_on_the_rooftops/cats_on_the_rooftops.htm

CorvusPurpureus · 26/05/2022 23:10

I just googled that - well, it's quite a lot ruder than anything I would have been expecting my grandmother to be quoting!

Thank you - I had thought the reference would need to be earlier than '76, but could be, except dad thinks he remembers it from his childhood in the 40s/50s as well as mine in the 70s/80s.

18yo DS got tagged in to the conversation, & honestly, he's going to adore this if that's the reference. How funny!

Sorry dad. I might have to break this to him quite gently.

Thank you again for the link!

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Talipesmum · 26/05/2022 23:13

Hilarious! Found a recording of it…!

Labracadabradoodle · 26/05/2022 23:18

Also, The Cats on the Rooftops song was recorded by Ivor Biggun, who was well known in the 1970s ( I think) for a song called I'm a Wanker, which my step dad used to sing often.

BlueTitSmilingAtMe · 26/05/2022 23:23

Lol, all those people in the audience know the words!

This seems to have it as dating from 1922. Also is a funny read if you think reading the word "arsehole" repeatedly is funny. (I do.)

greensdictofslang.com/entry/a4elkgi

RedDiamond · 26/05/2022 23:32

@CorvusPurpureus
I just googled that - well, it's quite a lot ruder than anything I would have been expecting my grandmother to be quoting!

I think we might be surprised what our Grandmothers knew!!😂

CorvusPurpureus · 26/05/2022 23:37

My brother & I have just cracked up completely over zoom.

'Oh god. You're going to have to tell dad'
'Can we not just tell him there was a popular revival of the works of Seneca through the often under appreciated medium of 70s working class men's club culture?'
'Right. Great plan. You call him, I'll distract him with the Cats movie. He'll totally hate that so it'll create a diversion'.

Obviously the ACTUAL plan is that we tell him it's a traditional music hall trope, & somehow got tagged on to the Shakespeare bit.

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BlueTitSmilingAtMe · 26/05/2022 23:59

Lol.

Or you could tell him that his old ma created the song and it subsequently became a famous variety number.

(This could be true. The writer is unknown.)

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