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Grateful for the effort or for the outcome? Constructive criticism is okay, yes?

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workwoes123 · 26/05/2022 12:02

Just had a blow-up with DH. It sounds very petty but is indicative of a deeper issue. He was putting some wine / beer glasses away, I told him not to because they aren't properly clean. It was him that washed them and TBH he's rubbish at it. Held up to the light, they have fingerprints, sticky marks, greasy bits on them. he skimps on the hot water, seems to think that just rinsing is enough: I'm fed up taking greasy glasses out of the cupboard and having to clean them. He took massive offence and went storming off declaring that he'd never wash glasses again then 🙄etc etc. I honestly wasn't rude, though I was direct.

It turned out he'd just done the same to our 11 yr old... DH had offered to bring a particular food stuff back from the shop for him, he didn't bring the one that DS liked but DS said thank you and ate it anyway but also told DH that it wasn't what he'd hoped for. DH basically guilt-tripped him in response. His whole attitude seems to be that because he has made an effort to do something for someone, the only acceptable response should be total gratitude - even if the outcome is not what the receiver wanted, and any criticism is taken personally.

His whole family are like this. Asked to express a preference, they freeze in the headlights and find it virtually impossible to say what they want to do / eat / drink etc in case it somehow offends or upsets or inconveniences the person who's asking. It leads DH to so many problems: at work he just plasters on a big smile and accepts whatever shit comes his way, he finds it so difficult to say no or to point out when something is unfair or that he disagrees with a decision.

I think he IBU. For me, of course grateful for the effort that he puts in by washing the glasses (or whatever) but I should also be able to say that the glasses aren't clean, shouldn't I? I shouldn't have to either stealthily re-wash them every time or drink out of dirty glasses just to save his feelings, right? Conversely, if I cook a meal for him and he doesn't like something about it, I want him to tell me, - that's how we learn, right? And if I don't agree with the criticism then I will say so as well, we'll discuss it and come to a compromise, like functioning adults.

AIBU to think that one can appreciate the effort without having to love the outcome?

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CornishPorsche · 26/05/2022 12:11

Definitely NBU. If he can't do the job properly, he does it again - not refuse to do it any more. A half arsed job is not good enough.

It's also a great way to get out of doing jobs in the future - some people would call it strategic incompetence.

Acunningruse · 26/05/2022 12:13

Omg are you actually me?!
This is my DH and in-laws to a tee! It's so frustrating! Never expressing a preference for anything! Never taking responsibility for any decisions! As someone very direct it is the one area we clash.

I would say over the years I have learned to be more diplomatic than I was to try and avoid hurting feelings Hmmbut yes I would definitely say something if the glasses weren't clean and it was a regular occurrence but would preface it by saying 'thanks for washing the glasses but I think they need doing again'.

Acunningruse · 26/05/2022 12:14

I would say I word it in the same way I would giving someone at work constructive criticism so super tactful which I know you wouldn't think would be necessary with your spouse but I would say it's helped.

watcherintherye · 26/05/2022 12:33

Oh, op, you are so not unreasonable. This

His whole attitude seems to be that because he has made an effort to do something for someone, the only acceptable response should be total gratitude - even if the outcome is not what the receiver wanted, and any criticism is taken personally.

resonates so much with me! Accompanied by ‘I can’t do anything
right/to please you/Wrong again/I give up’ ad infinitum. I try and be as detailed as possible when he asks what’s needed, but then I end up feeling like I’m hugely controlling!

Case in point. I am isolating with CV. Ds revising. Dh goes to corner shop for a few items including a wrap which Ds would like for lunch. From experience I knew there might not be any, so go into great detail about alternatives. Dh manages to come back with (wrong milk and bread as well, but by-the by) the one thing I specifically asked him not to get because ds doesn’t like it! All hurt and ‘well, I didn’t hear you’ when I told him. More often than not I keep quiet and put it right myself because I can’t stand the hurt and angry bafflement triggered by any suggestion that he’s got it wrong. But occasionally, I just can’t keep my mouth shut! I feel your pain, op.

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