School work remainly at school at the end of year.

[jkbabymassage]

I just found out that at the end of the academic year my daughter who is in Yr 1 won't be allowed to bring her exercise books and school work home for us to keep and cherish. And that she won't even get them at the end of her time at primary school..that they will be archived? Apparently it's some stupid safeguarding thing? But what about parental rights and my daughter's rights? Surely the work belongs to her and we should take ownership of it? My mum to this day cherishes work that I brought home from school. It's made me both sad and angry that the best that I'll get is a quick peek in them on the odd parent's evening and then it will just all collect dust in some archive box somewhere. Anyone else had this at their child's school?

Lucky you! My son finished year 6 last year and came home with every book since year 3. I had carrier bags full. We moved home few months later and it all went in recycling. I kept the odd painting etc but maths books, English books all were disposed off. And took 3 weeks of recycling bin days there was so many. Honestly you may want it now but in 6 years time believe me, you won't!

She sold the rights to her books. My daughter has not!

Ask to see her work (not unreasonable) before they "archive it" and then take photos of it on your phone. ( probably not of pictures of other children if they exist). Ask them to spell out to you why it's a safeguarding risk for it to come home.

We've always had all the books & artwork come home - maybe something has changed recently?

Surely if she takes it home between now and then for homework you just 'lose it' before the last week?

You’ve been given a really hard time here OP.

I’ve not heard of school’s keeping the children’s books before, I’d be gutted!

My DC are 12 and 15 and I’ve got most of their workbooks still, they each have a tub in the garage and I put the best bits from each year in there.

And my Mum also cherishes my old school work! She has a small case of mostly English books in my old room. My DC love reading through them, we even have a couple of funny little catch phrases we say that came from silly things I’ve written.

When my DD was in kindergarten she took one of my kindergarten workbooks in for show & tell and the teacher sent me home a school merit certificate that said “for excellent book work” 🤣

I’d speak to the school again about it OP, good luck!

DSs was kept for inspection or something last year so I've just had his year 1 stuff (we've just been OFSTED'ED) and his Yr 2 will come back soon. Cute but where like a dozen books and I have three kids. I might keep a few isolated pages!!

I do still have some of mine to look bsck on which is nice

Homework tends to be all online these days. They don't bring books home to do homework.

No, she's the 'author' of work though, surely that gives her a right to it.

Oh give over, op. You're starting to sound unhinged.

I bet there will be an intense bidding war if she ever does decide to.

I mean it's got to be worth a few mil just for "The clouds was/were in the sky." and "Nishma gave Paul 3 apples. How many apples does Nishma have left? I dnt kno."

Incidentally, the overwhelming majority of the content in your Year 1 child's book will have been written/drawn/otherwise created by the teacher or the people who made the learning resources e.g. Twinkl. So even on this (ridiculous) claim, you're talking balls.

This is the first and last time I will post on Mumsnet. I had a very reasonable question about keeping some of my child's school work and my rights regarding that. Because I love my child and care about her education. And I'm proud of her and her school work! If you can't see that then I feel sorry for you and any child you have. The amount of hate on here is mind boggling. Goodbye!

There's a lot of confusion about legal rights here.
Does OP's daughter have a copyright in her work? Yes, copyright occurs automatically and the bar for what constitutes a "work" is very low.
However, I think OP is a little confused as to what rights come with that. It's preimarily a right not to have it copied (which is what JKR will have sold to her publisher in return for a royalty), although there are some moral rights tied to copyright which include descturction. I do however think you'd be presenting as "that parent" if you went into school demanding the moral rights to your daughter's work.
Why don't you ask if you could look at them before the end of the year and copy any pages you want to "cherish"?

Oh, and the fact she has copy or moral rights doesn't mean she's entitled to take the books. If you drew a picture on a wall you would have the copyright to the picture, but you wouldn't suddenly have a right to take the wall. IP rights and ownership rights are not the same thing.

@jkbabymassage I, too would find it hard to accept some jobsworth telling me my dc couldn’t take their own workbooks home at the end of the year for no good reason. Archiving them all. Where’s the room? ‘Recycling’ them? Why can’t they be sent home instead?

This isn’t an outrageous entitled suggestion, involving copyright (!!) and safeguarding (!!) Contrary to what some posters would have us believe, it’s a commonplace practice for schools to send books back at the end of the year, evidenced by the boxes of 3x dc workbooks stashed in my attic (or lovingly stored, should I say!).

I love my children and care about their education too

Yes, copyright occurs automatically and the bar for what constitutes a "work" is very low.
Eh??

Oh, what a ridiculous strop.

I'm almost envious, I'm fed up of saying to 2 forty-plus year olds Do you want all that stuff in the garage? Oh yes, don't throw it out, just keep it there!

See ya troll!

Actually I agree it sounds a silly position for the school to day. And was clarifying previous posters saying there's not copyright.
On the other hand storming in talking about rights in work (as the OP is doing on here), and that she has paid for the books through her taxes is equally unhelpful.
My guess is, the best chance of getting the result OP wants is to talk calmly and reasonably to the school to understand their concern, and express what she actually wants. If she took the attitude to the school she has taken on here, I am frankly not surpised the weren't prepared to engage with her.

Taken no attitude to the school, I've not spoken to them yet. I mentioned tax once on this thread and that's been taken out of context. I was just suggesting that the physical ownership of the exercise books was not the school's simply because they paid for them. That as a tax payer we had shared ownership? I don't think that paying tax gives any parent the right to demand things from school or teachers. Where did I ever say that? Talk about guilty till proven innocent. Social media!? Just remembered why I hate it....bye....

That as a tax payer we had shared ownership?

So should I be allowed access to your daughters school books?

Do you get a say in how the teachers teach or what surgery people should be allowed or what constitutes a police emergency?

You keep saying bye but you're still here. There is a flouncers corner if you need it.

Better a flouncer than a troll. It proves I actually care about something. Happy to flouncer off away from little people getting kicks from being unkind to strangers on the Internet.