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How the f*** are you all managing your electric bills?

433 replies

cofingalthetime · 23/05/2022 16:19

I don't have gas...
Electric has gone up from 139 per month, to 225, and now the latest is 450...

I don't know how I'm supposed to manage.

Do you all pay by DD. I don't want a meter, I had one before, and it was a nightmare, so expensive.

If 450 goes out of my account next month I won't be able to buy food or petrol or clothes

I got the 150 from the council, and paid it immediately into my electric ,b ut that's a drop in the ocean. How are you all managing.

I'm really really scared.

OP posts:
dementedpixie · 23/05/2022 21:03

Tilltheend99 · 23/05/2022 21:01

Whatever you do don’t do ‘nothing’ and get put on the standard tariff as that will be pretty much the most expensive thing to do. Go on a price comparison site and compare tariffs and suppliers and pick a new one ASAP.

This is terrible advice!

The SVR IS the cheapest rate just now as its covered by the price cap. There are no cheap fixes anywhere and most suppliers aren't taking on new customers because of that.

VestaTilley · 23/05/2022 21:04

We have a smart meter. We have gas and electric, and our combined energy bill has dropped by £30 a month since we switched the heating off following the arrival of spring. It’s bizarre given what’s going on with prices. I keep thinking it can’t be right.

Make sure you’re sending monthly readings to your energy company. We pay monthly by direct debit.

HandlebarLadyTash · 23/05/2022 21:06

mustHaveA · 23/05/2022 16:26

Ironically by giving up work 🤦‍♀️

im significantly better off (enough to pay my increase in utility bills) by giving up and going onto UC as they also pay all the rent

Crazy that it works out like that

Tilltheend99 · 23/05/2022 21:06

BitOutOfPractice · 23/05/2022 20:12

This might not be popular but the Energy company would be a long long way down my priority list if I were you OP. After food and petrol. I’d cancel the DD, pay as much as you can online and go from there.

what an absolute shit storm of misery this country is heading into

Unless op drives for a living or has mobility needs, I’d put petrol at the bottom. Very few people actually need to use a car, and the running costs a fortune.

mogtheexcellent · 23/05/2022 21:19

I pay quarterly. They kept trying to get me to have a monthly DD but every time the amount would jump to stupid amounts due to the fact I'm on economy 11 with night storage heaters that we dont use. My estimated bills even before all this were hilarously eye watering.

Ive increased the amount pcm by 50% I put in a savings account and pay the quarterly bill from so was £100 now £150. SSE show an estimated bill amount whenever you pop on meter readings and Its currently in line with all that.

Havent even had my rebate yet. And not allowed to chase the council for it as they cant deal with the volume in queries.

Not sure how I can save electricity since we dont use the heating anyway. Glad to have a wood burner and free wood. Only expenditure is firelighters and a scout who chops kindling for me at £3 a bag.

saleorbouy · 23/05/2022 21:20

This website is set up to help reduce bills and increase fuel efficiency in the home.
applyforleap.org.uk/

Savingpeoplehuntingthings · 23/05/2022 21:30

My bill is quarterly, I'm just on the standard variable rate.
I have a smart meter and have been recording every evening as I go to bed how much I've used that day, at the end of the month I pay that plus as much more as I can afford into my gas+electric account so I'm in credit by the time the bill comes, hopefully by winter my overpaying now will mean I can afford to put the heating on a bit.
In fairness there hasn't been a price difference in my monthly reckonings since it went up in April. I am being extra careful though, no using the dryer, no reboiling kettle and use air fryer and steamer to cook instead of the oven

orwellwasright · 23/05/2022 21:33

mustHaveA · 23/05/2022 16:26

Ironically by giving up work 🤦‍♀️

im significantly better off (enough to pay my increase in utility bills) by giving up and going onto UC as they also pay all the rent

Not much help for those with a mortgage.

Obviously they have an asset and it's absolutely unreasonable to expect the tax payer to pay for someone else's asset.

But that's exactly what happens with private renting - it's just the landlord's asset the tax payer's kindly funding, rather than the renter's.

Our housing situation is absolutely fucked. IMO benefits should only fund social housing and there should be loads more of it.

orwellwasright · 23/05/2022 21:36

Very few people actually need to use a car

I'll bet my monthly energy DD that you don't live rurally.

ChickensandCows · 23/05/2022 21:37

OldieWordly · 23/05/2022 16:31

But I thought from posts on mumsnet that everyone on Universal Credit is living in poverty and needing to go to the food bank!

😆 this did tickle me.

That is so awful. Workers should be rewarded, it should never be more rewarding to be on benefits. This is why I'm making plans to move abroad- our system is fucked.

MaryAndHerNet · 23/05/2022 21:39

ChickensandCows · 23/05/2022 21:37

😆 this did tickle me.

That is so awful. Workers should be rewarded, it should never be more rewarding to be on benefits. This is why I'm making plans to move abroad- our system is fucked.

You're gonna get real mad when you realise that a lot of countries have systems much more generous than the UKs.

You should try the US if you want to see cruel welfare systems.

Lineala · 23/05/2022 21:54

cofingalthetime · 23/05/2022 16:51

I know :( I don't think I can move at the moment though. It costs quite a lot to move house doesnt it, with a possible extra month's rent, and all the associated costs with setting everything up again. Maybe I should consider it though. I like the house and position. The heating and immersion is a problem though. Big problem. I'm getting some more of those plug in electric radiators. They don't cos much to run, but you do have to buy them in the first place.

If you are privately renting it might be worth asking your landlord if they will provide an oil filled radiator or two. I have offered these to a tenant who is in one of my properties which is all electric.

Zeus44 · 23/05/2022 22:16

We’ve increased our payment to £185, was £80 for a four bed home previously.

Everything which is on standby now gets turned off, each night I’ll turn the television and sky box off at the plug. Laptop chargers and microwave also gets this treatment as well.

Surprising how much these items use when on standby mode!

cardibach · 23/05/2022 22:16

TheFrendo · 23/05/2022 20:06

Cancel your direct debit.

That would put you in control of when you pay and how much you pay.

Do it.

Dit also means you pay more for every unit. Don’t do it. The cheapest rates are DD. Just keep an eye on it and don’t let them take stupidly high amounts. Work out what you are using and just have that as DD. They will let you if you ask.

Zeus44 · 23/05/2022 22:17

Not near me though I hear people saying :)

Eeksteek · 23/05/2022 22:28

I did a huge energy audit. Unplugged everything that wasn’t being used, switch most things off at socket when not in actual use, re-deployed existing smart plugs and light bulbs so that things like phone chargers go off after an hour, and random things I forget about go off automatically at night. Stopped using electric blankets - switched to hot water bottles. Never use the tumble drier at all.

I’ve always batch cooked, so most food is microwaved. I’m planning better so I can defrost things in advance. switched to making coffee in a stovetop pot, and make two at once, putting one in flask for later. Cleared out the freezer so can manage with just a small one. I only use the oven twice a week, and I cook extra things like baked spuds or fresh bread to reheat on other days. I’m growing more staple winter veg to store and harvest in the winter, rather than use all the space for luxury treats this year. Switched to eco cycles on dishwasher and washing machine. Do fewer washes on both (I change the beds and clothes less often). I put my kiddo to bed at eight, and I go to bed too, and read.

I replaced the draught proof strip on my doors, blocked up the vents on my tumble drier and unused gas fireplace, turned my boiler flow temp down, shut up and draughtproofed the spare bedroom, dining room and office and turned the heating off in them. I turned the heat down to 17°C, with just a little extra in the morning and after school. I make everyone go for a bracing walk and wrap up in blankets. I won’t lie, April was pretty miserable. It’s ok now, though. I banned baths, except for special treats and we shower every third day.

I hate it. I’ve been miserably cold, I miss baths more than I can tell you and I loathe faffing about with plugs all the time. I also halved my shopping budget to £20, which is also no fun. I don’t care about not going out, takeaways, holidays or haircuts or any of that. When I was comfortably warm, could make myself nice meals at home and treat myself to a bath at the end of the day, I felt lucky. Broke, yes, but warm, well fed and comfortable, and I took a lot of solace in that. Now I’m just enduring.

I have managed to reduce my electric/gas bills to about £70 a month, which is significantly better than predicted. They were about £80 pre-March, and predicted to be £165, so it has been helpful. However, I can’t bear the thought of a winter like this. I’m fortunate things have already improved a little for me, and I expect further improvements over the summer, which should hopefully push us back into being able to heat the house a bit more and spend on better food. It’s not a lot, cost wise - perhaps £130 a month - but the difference in quality of life is astonishing. I would have taken a side job in the evenings rather than put us through that. I still might.

Threeboysandadog · 23/05/2022 23:18

We were paying £180 on a fixed rate up until the end of March when that finished and the price cap went up. I managed to get a further fix for a year, £338 a month, over 20% of our income going in gas and electricity!! I am paying above the standard tariff but not by much so, if it goes up again in October, I will benefit. We are a family of 5 with 2 young adults and a teen.

I use the oven most evenings because neither the air fryer or the microwave can cater for everyone. The washing machine is on far too often but I do hang out everything I can. We are in the Scottish Highlands and so the heating only went off last week and dh is sitting in his jacket and beanie. The boys have their computers on for hours every day.

We have cancelled sky and sold the TV. I’ve emptied and switched off one of the freezers and I hope we can bring the cost down a bit by cutting our use.

FoxInABox · 23/05/2022 23:22

I feel the same OP!
I was with one of the companies that went bust, paying £100 a month for gas & electric combined - we used next to nothing in summer on gas but still paid same direct debit which covered the increase in the winter. Then they went bust and with no choice I was moved to EDF. The switching process took over six months before I could get a bill - they now say I owe £1000! Despite direct debits still being taken during that time too. They are saying I’m using £270 on average a month. I feel physically sick thinking about it. We have an electric hybrid car so we stopped charging it at home for a month yet it still says I’m using near £7 a day on electric alone, up to £17 when we charge the car, despite the fact We’ve been told the car should only take around £4 for a full charge. I have no idea how- we turn off everything we can when not in use and at night. I can’t see how on Earth it can be right, yet EDF say it is and that I’m on the cheapest tariff. I am completely stuck now as I can’t leave them until the debt is cleared and yet I have no way to get rid of the debt whilst supposedly using so much a month. They wanted my direct debit to go up to £350 I’ve increased to £200 as that’s the absolute most I can pay but at the rate they say we are using there’s no way il ever be out of debt. How on Earth can this be right!

SleepingStandingUp · 23/05/2022 23:28

What's your unit costs and standing charges cos its impossible to know if you're paying a LOT per unit or using a shit load of electricity. We'll be OK until Oct when our fixed term ends, just in time for Xmas! Joy.

TheOrigRights · 23/05/2022 23:51

Is this Scottish Power by any chance OP?

poshme · 24/05/2022 00:02

@orwellwasright I'll join with you in that bet.

I'd like to see that poster walking the kids 7 miles to school. Then a further 5 miles to the supermarket, before carrying the weekly shop 12 miles home.

And yes. The nearest.

poshme · 24/05/2022 00:04

FourTeaFallOut · 23/05/2022 19:48

The number of people living in a home, the amount of time people are in their home, the size and type of a home, the level of insulation, where in the country you are, your method of heating the house, heating water, how often you are cooking from scratch, how often you have the washing machine on, electric cars, how many showers, what type of showers, energy heavy tech, there are all sorts of reasons why people are spending more that £3/day.

We were hitting £2.90 by midday back in February.

This is what needs to be added to every thread about energy costs.

alwaysmovingforwards · 24/05/2022 00:15

I wouldn't sign up to a fixed deal at the movement.

Check out octopus variable tariff, it's as good as it gets at the mo if you're coming out of a deal.

And electric only is your issue, it's expensive. But, all you can do is wear slippers and layers in the winter to avoid using heaters too much.

PerkyBlinder · 24/05/2022 03:16

I’m on octopus variable and have managed to keep my energy bill about the same so far by turning off the heating more and snuggling under many blankets on the sofa. I’m dreading if things go up much more as I barely have any disposable income. I try to save but as soon as I have a few hundred another emergency comes up. This month I needed new glasses. Another month it was a vet visit and had the insurance excess to pay. I desperately need my windows and gutters fixed and my heating and water controller keeps blowing out and I have to reset it. I can’t have heating and water on at the same time or it blows. A few lights just don’t work and haven’t for years so I use lamps instead. At some point when my daughters have left home, I guess I’ll sell the house as a project for someone and downsize to a one bed flat when I might finally be able to afford to live without struggling to stay afloat. It’s only a 3 bed terrace so nothing fancy but everything just gets harder and harder to stay afloat.

What I wish I could afford to do is to put solar on the roof and to get storage batteries and a storage heater. A work colleague has done this and rigged up a controller which checks the weather forecast for how much sun there will be the next day because the storage batteries charge up overnight on the cheaper rate but if it’s going to be sunny, they don’t charge up fully so there is space to get topped up by the sun.

It really strikes me that the poorest are on pre paid metres which cost a fortune and the more wealthy have the means to pay the least.

Absentmindedwoman · 24/05/2022 04:48

mustHaveA · 23/05/2022 18:33

Honestly have had a good cry over this thread . I didn’t want to give up but looking at the figures there was no choice. If the gas and electric hadn’t gone up I wouldn’t have chosen to.

its a bad situation for so many I know other parents with disabled dc in similar situations. A lot of us use more than average gas and electric too. I actually think the government need to do more (what I’m not sure but something to address this problem)

Sending un-MNetty hugs and solidarity.

Being disabled (whether it is oneself or a loved one) is hard and expensive and can shatter your heart on a regular basis.

Twats like the previous poster having a dig at you are complete cunts.

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