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AIBU to say this wasn't a healthy childhood?

22 replies

flowercrowns · 22/05/2022 16:13

I’ve been to see my mum today and I always come away feeling very mixed up/angry when the conversation comes around to my childhood. I’ll be as brief as I can…

For context: I’m early 30s now and my mum was a single mum who was 41 when she had me. Very deprived council estate type upbringing and I’ve never known who my dad is. She refused to talk about when I asked questions as a child and sometimes seemed to be on the edge of a breakdown when I mentioned it so I stopped asking, and haven’t since.

I didn’t sleep in my own bed until I was 11. My mum insisted I slept in hers, she said the bed in my room was damp. It wasn’t. When I started high school she finally let me have my own proper bed. I also had a dummy until I was around 11 to sleep with.

I never had a bedtime, I would stay up until my mum went to bed at 10pm. I was often late for primary school.

I was never allowed to walk to the school bus stop alone, even in year 11 at 16 years old.

Never had the ‘growing up’ talk. When I started my periods at 13 I would ask friends to bring me supplies or steal them where I could. I was too scared to put them in the bin at home so I’d hide used pads in my school bag and put them in the bins at school. (I just got a bit tearful writing this, I feel sad for 13 year old me having to do that).

I have a sister and brother who are both 20+ years older than me. My sister picked on me and was nasty disguised as joking at times. I’m sure she used to steal my cassette tapes which were a treasure to me. My brother I barely had any relationship with at all. So I was effectively an only child.

My mum fell out with our next door neighbour so I remember being 7/8 and being up at 9pm while the neighbours teenagers and friends threw stones at our windows. I remember seeing a condom come through the letterbox, we also received a sympathy card even though no one had died. I remember seeing my mum attacked while bringing the shopping in. She would never call the police, even now she hates the police in a way that seems irrational. The neighbour used to stick her fingers up at us through the window every time we left our house.

My mum was very reluctant to let me spend time with my friends outside school. I didn’t do any teenage stuff like cinema/shopping with friends, the answer would always be no. So I stopped asking.

When I started my first job at 17 my mum freaked out because I had to wear a name badge. She hated anyone knowing my name.

We never really went anywhere. I understand money was tight and we didn’t have a car but when I look I see this massive sense of isolation and loneliness. I spent a HUGE amount of time upstairs reading books and listening to the radio. I've found out since that mum took out loans and finance for my brother and sister but they didn't pay her back so that made money even tighter.

My mum would agree to babysit my brothers kids while he went drinking at the weekend, but we didn’t have a car to get home. I must have between 6-10 years old. I remember several occasions of being awake and bored at midnight at my brothers house and then having to walk 3 miles home in the dark. I remember being scared we were going to get attacked. I did get bitten by a dog walking home in the early hours on one occasion.

My mum admitted a few years ago that she had an affair my her sisters husband (my uncle) around 31 years ago. This has made me think he might be my dad but I have never addressed it with her. I’m scared to 😅

There’s a bit more I could write but I’m aware this post is already really long. My children are 8 and 11 and the older they get the more my own childhood seems to haunt me. Their childhood is nothing like mine.

AIBU to say this doesn’t sound like a typical 90s upbringing or am I justified in being unsettled/angry/sad about my childhood?

Thank you if you’ve stayed with me this far

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BeautifulWar · 22/05/2022 16:28

Goodness me, no, that was not typical at all and no wonder you feel haunted by it. It sounds like there were multiple issues with your mother and your environment in general. How is your relationship with your mother now? Has she accepted you moving on/growing up?

ManateeFair · 22/05/2022 16:29

This is an extremely dysfunctional childhood and I’m sorry you had to go through it. It’s not normal in the slightest to grow up like this. You might benefit from some counselling.

Battygirll · 22/05/2022 16:44

No, that is a neglectful childhood where your needs were not key.

My Mother was exactly the same re periods. I hid my bloody knickers from her and often bought my own pads and hid them Hmm

Lollypop701 · 22/05/2022 16:46

No you know from having your own children that this was disfunctional . You are a survivor and need to view yourself as this, because you are not repeating the history but making healthy choices for your own children. Hugs op

CoralBells · 22/05/2022 16:52

Sounds pretty grim, sorry

RollOnWinter · 22/05/2022 16:52

No, that certainly wasn't a typical childhood - in many ways, it wasn't much of a childhood at all. I'm sorry you had that life. It sounds as though your mum thought of you more as a friend for company instead of a child she was (should have been) responsible for. It sounds as though she must have had some mental health problems - depression? If that uncle was indeed your dad, would you want to know? How would it affect your life, his life, etc?

You are very much justified in feeling angry, hurt, sad, etc. Counselling might help - you could self-refer online. "Let's Talk" is one of the facilities. Be very proud of the mum you are to your children. You haven't had a role model. x

NerdleNoodle · 22/05/2022 16:58

Oh OP, the only question is why you have not recognised what a hard and isolating childhood you had. Maybe you haven't felt safe enough to face it up till now. I hope you can find the space to recover and heal. All the best to you.

daffodilsareinbloom · 22/05/2022 17:04

Not a typical childhood @flowercrowns I'm sorry there were so many hard aspects for you.

Your Mum sounds like someone who has experienced profound trauma. She reminds me of my aunt who experienced a sexual assault. Extreme anxiety about something happening to her daughter, trying to keep daughter a baby/young child and terrified of people knowing her name. My cousin is an adult now and has had to cope with/reflect on these hard truths too.

unlimiteddilutingjuice · 22/05/2022 17:05

We had similar from neighbours. I think councils and HAs were much less on the case about ASB in those days.
I agree, It is extremely traumatic and isolating to experience, especially for a child Flowers

CoralPaperweight · 22/05/2022 17:10

I agree with @daffodilsareinbloom - from what you've described I immediately thought your mum had experienced trauma / abuse and significant, perhaps related, mental health problems. There sounds like there could be an element of intimidation too.

MarvellousMay · 22/05/2022 17:11

It’s not typical.
Having children brought up so many unresolved issues from my past too. Unfortunately it’s unlikely you’ll get any sense of closure from your mum. It’ll probably be denial ‘it wasn’t that bad’ sort of responses.

Do you have any relationship with your siblings? Do you want to find your dad?
there’s still a chance via the dna matching services or other avenues.

SueDeNeem · 22/05/2022 17:18

You could benefit from some counselling I think

mathanxiety · 22/05/2022 17:19

I agree with daffodilsareinbloom"s suggestion that your mother suffered some horrible trauma, probably rape, and possibly by a police officer ( though it's possible she was retraumatised by the police when she reported the rape).

coffeecupsandfairylights · 22/05/2022 17:26

I'm so sorry for what you've been through.

As I think you know, your childhood was not healthy or normal, but it does sound like your mum had trauma of her own that she never got over, which possibly explains her paranoia and maybe how she was treated by the neighbours also.

Would you consider going to therapy at all? You might find it really helpful to talk to someone about it Flowers

Catface11 · 22/05/2022 17:30

I could have written some of this stuff myself- the not knowing my father, not allowed out to socialise, not being bought sanitary products etc. Never had ‘the talk’, my mum (although very law abiding) absolutely hates the police and I think that might be because we also grew up on a council estate and she didn’t feel they helped her as we also had neighbour issues. I’m sorry but it isn’t normal, I never really thought of it much until the last few years (mid thirties) and realised how I was bringing my own children up seemed so different to how I was raised. Have you had some counselling? It can be helpful, I have also read a number of books as well (recommended on here) that helped me make sense of it. I agree with other posters that you might not be able to get the answers you want from your mum.

💐

SaskiaRembrandt · 22/05/2022 17:31

I agree with daffodilsareinbloom too, it does sound as though your mum had experienced some form of trauma. I'd also hazard a guess that she went to the police for help and didn't receive it.

Whatever happened, it must have been very hard for you to grow up like that.

flowercrowns · 22/05/2022 20:07

MarvellousMay · 22/05/2022 17:11

It’s not typical.
Having children brought up so many unresolved issues from my past too. Unfortunately it’s unlikely you’ll get any sense of closure from your mum. It’ll probably be denial ‘it wasn’t that bad’ sort of responses.

Do you have any relationship with your siblings? Do you want to find your dad?
there’s still a chance via the dna matching services or other avenues.

No real relationship with my siblings, one of them lives abroad and I haven't heard from them in years. The other lives in the next town over but no real relationship there. They're in their 50s now.

You're right right when you say the will be no acknowledgment from my mum, she claims she doesn't remember me sleeping in her bed at all. I did it for 11 years, how can you not remember?!

It's hard to come to terms with when it only seems to live in my own memory.

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flowercrowns · 22/05/2022 20:08

It does seem like some counselling is probably what I need 😔

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Ladeeda23 · 22/05/2022 20:57

It sounds like your mum was/is harbouring a lot of dark secrets that you're not privy too.
YANBU to feel sad/angry or that your upbringing was unusual. Mine was nowhere near as dysfunctional as yours but not perfect either and my dc have brought up a lot of memories for me too so I can only imagine how much you are ruminating over things in your head.
Counselling sounds a good option but be aware you may unlock things that may be difficult to face..

PonyPatter44 · 22/05/2022 21:39

As the others have said so well, no it wasn't normal in the slightest, and I am so sorry that noone helped you as a child. 💐for you. Some counselling might help.

Basilbrushgotfat · 22/05/2022 22:07

I'm sorry you went through all this op. I agree with others on several points: that you should look into therapy and that this might be something you need to explore in more than just the short term. I also agree that your mums behaviour to me reads like she was deeply traumatised by something when you were very young or before you were born.

Her intensive protectiveness, plus emotional neglect (suggesting she was overwhelmed by her own pain) makes me think she was in a daily battle of survival.

No idea about your brother or sister - they sound like awful individuals. Do you know anything about their father? I wonder if your mum was in an abusive relationship and left when she fell pregnant with you, which might account for your sisters resentment of you. It would be incredibly hard for someone to come to terms with that their mother was unable to leave to protect them but put their new child first.

Wild guesses here, obviously.

Assuming your mum is deeply traumatised then she probably isn't capable of facing up to how she has let you down. To do so might break her if, if it took everything she had to start afresh with you.

There's a meme that does the rounds every so often: we're allowed to love our parents and recognise that they did their very best for us, while also acknowledging that they didn't (or weren't able) to meet our needs.

Meadmaiden · 22/05/2022 22:56

It would be easy to find out your paternal ancestry through home DNA testing, should you wish to..

Your mum sounds like she was very traumatised. Reading your post, I wonder if your father was an abuser, and she was scared of him finding you.

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