Education secretary only asked about Sue Grey

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ChiselandBits · 22/05/2022 10:00

Just watching it now. 20 mins of fierce questioning about whether Boris called Sue or the other way round and now energy. Ffs, get Boris on if you want an answer to that. Why not ask the Ed Sec about funding crisis in schools, how the CoL crisis is affecting services, teachers, their pay scales etc. Whichever Tory MP is dragged on to take a beating for Boris will only ever trot out a party line. Its a waste of time. (and I'm NEITHER a committed Tory nor anything else). Not on anyone's side here, but generally think way too much time has been spent on this partygate fiasco and there are bigger problems.

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MayorDusty · 22/05/2022 20:22

The PM lying to parliament is about as bad as it gets.
everyone's sick of it but that doesn't mean it should go unpunished.
Johnson created this situation and it's him that's dragging things out hoping it will be eclipsed by other things.
surely you want better?

cakeorwine · 22/05/2022 20:24

This is when he apologised and said the Cabinet Secretary would investigate

hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2021-12-08/debates/DB36FDA8-C784-4AEE-8D0C-F95FBB5345E9/Engagements

The Cabinet Secretary who is probably on his way out.

ancientgran · 22/05/2022 20:29

ChiselandBits · 22/05/2022 10:34

But this was the education secretary, not a junior minister. I really don't care about the party stuff. It's optics, I want them to address important stuff, not nonsense from two years ago

How is it nonsense about 2 years ago? There was a meeting within the last few weeks, someone is lying to us about it. They need to stop lying.

ancientgran · 22/05/2022 20:32

Earlydancing · 22/05/2022 16:42

But I don't understand why he wouldn't see the report in advance. If a report was done about me and going to be published nationally, I'd like the courtesy of seeing it in advance so I'd know what I was being accused of and how to defend myself. Otherwise, when the media storm starts, there'll just be a stonewall of I haven't read the report.
It seems like everything is about kneejerk responses and aha moments, none of which are productive in telling the truth.

He didn't need a meeting to see the report and anyway the report wasn't finished when they had the meeting. I'm sure he could see it this weekend like everyone else mentioned in it.

ancientgran · 22/05/2022 20:35

ChiselandBits · 22/05/2022 19:59

I actually don't disagree that BJ has little in the way of integrity, but I think there are real political issues to skewer him with rather than partygate or his personal life. Obviously as a person, he's pretty appalling, but IF he was a capable and effective PM, I would not want to see him or anyone else on either bench resign over a thing like this. I can't get worked up about people who were working cheek by jowl all day, managing the covid crisis, having some cake before a meeting or a beer and a curry at 10pm as they were working late. I'm a teacher. I had coffee and cake and even wine once, after work, in a room with people I had been working with all day alongside the 500 or so kids I mingled with. I completely understand why parties, gatherings etc were banned so that people who weren't ALREADY mixing wouldn't, but the hysteria over this has been OTT and a distraction. Yes, it is my opinion, and not shared by all. That's fine. Doesn't mean I am wrong or that those who disagree with me are. I don't think it's right to categorically state as fact that it DOES matter.

Carrie Johnson wasn't working with them all day, the decorator wasn't working with them all day and it wasn't just a cake or a beer, what about the BYOB party?

cakeorwine · 22/05/2022 20:37

The report will make interesting reading
And the photos...

walkersareback · 25/05/2022 21:40

"Carrie Johnson wasn't working with them all day, the decorator wasn't working with them all day and it wasn't just a cake or a beer, what about the BYOB party?"

Carrie Johnson is not even part of the government, neither is her decorator! What were they doing in government offices - bringing cake.

And it wouldn't still be going on, and all this money wouldn't have been spent on investigations and a report if they had just bloody put their hands up and admitted the truth. This is what really annoys me - they are like the cheating husband - deny everything until you are proved wrong and then try to blame someone else - they are despicable human beings.

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