To think that travelling to multiple EU (Schengen) countries over 90 days is impossible?

[LittleGreyFluffyCat]

The rules are - you can't stay longer than 90 days in the Schengen countries in a rolling 180 day period.

Son is in Italy for 89 days. Then UK for 7 days and America for 2 months. Then wants to come to France with rest of family for holiday in August. Rules say son needs visa.

Try to get visa:

1. French visa website says 'staying in France under 90 days? you don't need a visa'


2. I lie and stay he's staying for over 90 days as there's no option for 'been somewhere else before coming to France'


3. We need to give his French address


4. I lie and give an address of a random hotel in France


5. The form crashes and the service is down


6. I'm eventually directed to a different form, to make an appointment to get visa


7. On this form I need to give his British Residence Permit number and validity date - he does not have this permit because he is British


8. Husband phones French consulate. Bizarre hold message says press 1 to talk to someone, then sends you back to the recorded message that says press 1 to talk to someone


9. Husband phones French embassy. Answer message says phone French consulate

So - travelling to France, if you have already been to another European country for over 90 days - is now impossible isn't it?

Stupid Brexit. Who voted for this shit?

I know now that he should have got a longer than 90 days visa for going to Italy, that would have covered France, but when he left for Italy we didn't know we were going to France.

sorry, Brexit f*cks up peoples holidays (and lots of other stuff too).

I think France can't fix this issue, it would have to be Italy and you'd have to have a good reason to have the visa - job etc. just a holiday is not allowed.

Yes, this is utterly crap and I hate Brexit for a million reasons including this. Agree with PP though, it's the long stay in Italy that is preventing entry to France. Is there any option for him to extend that by two days and get a visa for that (e.g. to work/study etc.)? Then he will have zero visa free days in the Schengen zone and will be free to go to France.

I looked up the rules for extending the visa to Italy and you need a very good reason (humanitarian, force majeure, important personal reasons e.g. wedding).

Yes, I hate this consequence of Brexit. Among others. Didn't vote for it, don't want this crap. Is there any way your son can cut 2 weeks off his Italy stay so he has effectively 2 weeks Schengen "allowance" for the holiday in France?

I'd give up - sounds like he's done quite a bit of travelling anyway this year!

Your son needs to apply for vlst t visa for 4 -6 months
He has used his 90 in 180 days. He must apply in UK and be a UK resident.
The resident permit is not required if you hold UK passport. I had to do this to stay in France for 6months.
There is a good group on f/b applying for a French visa .