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What was the lowest point in your life, and how did you bounce back?

33 replies

NoSleepOnceAgain · 16/05/2022 07:06

I have a very sick parent, whose cancer just keeps coming. I am hollowed out and numb and terrified.

I have already lived a variation of this in my twenties, with the other parent, and been almost destroyed by the grief.

I have a lot of health problems and ADHD and have fucked up my professional life - no career. Also trying to accept that I can't have a child due to my health.

Feeling quite low. Really would love to hear from anyone who has at some point wondered how they could every carve out meaning from life, but is now ok.

What do I do. I feel I'm going mad that so many things are not options to me. I'm so tired and resentful, why is life so fucking shite and hard?

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Squiff70 · 16/05/2022 07:29

I'm so sorry you're going through this and I'm sorry your parent is so unwell.

I'm 39 now but when I was 24 I hit rock bottom. I can't and won't go into the circumstances but I had a psychotic breakdown through shock and stress and ended up making a serious attempt on my life. I'm writing this so obviously I didn't succeed but it was very very close.

It took a long time to 'recover'. I had about 25 rounds of ECT, medication, inpatient stays, counselling etc. I got there but only after a physical health crisis which put me in ICU in a coma for five weeks. I had a trachaeostomy and was resuscited at one point too. Nobody knows to this day how i survived but I did. It took four months to build up strength after so I stayed in hospital all that time learning how to walk, talk and eat again.

Through this time in hospital, I met my (now) future husband. We have been through a hell of a lot of heartache, losing twins at 19 weeks gestation, and having a second set of twins born 4 months early. Our daughter survived but sadly our son was only with us for four days. We have another baby on the way and honestly, my life has done a 360 and it pains me to think how low and unwell I was just a few years ago, to the point of neglecting my health so much I nearly didn't come through it (twice). I have never been as content as I am now.

I'm so sorry to make so much of this post about me, and for mentioning having children when you have been fighting a battle that many people just wouldn't cope with. I can only begin to imagine what not being able to have biological children must do to a person who wants them and you have my sincere, heartfelt empathy. I'm sure you're aware there are other options to 'natural conception' and don't need me to patronise you by pointing out these options, but there are other ways to parent a child other than giving birth yourself. I know that's no consolation when you're knee-deep in grief, however.

What I'm driving at is that it's always possible to come back from the very brink of not being able to survive (physically or mentally). I sometimes think about the Universe and how comparatively small and insignificant we are, and think HOW and WHY does life just throw SO much shit at people, then stamp on them when they are down?

I understand, to some degree, what it's like to have unwell parents. I'm grateful to still have both my parents, however my mum has a life
-threatening neurological illness and a month ago my dad was diagnosed with prostate cancer. I haven't yet worked out how to 'cope' with either of these things. I saw both my parents yesterday for the first time since September and my mum was unrecognisable. It was like she had aged 15 years in 10 months. I didn't let her see how upset and worried I was. I am trying to treat them both as I always have whilst recognising their limitations. It's bloody hard.

There is lots of support available. It's not always obvious but it IS there. Have you thought of accessing counselling? NHS wait times are putting many people off, and many can't afford private therapy either, but the mental health charity Mind offer adult counselling on a one-to-one basis. They ask for a £15 donation for each 50 minute session with a trained counsellor. I understand that this is still unaffordable for a lot of people but it is an option and Mind's waiting times tend to be a few weeks (dependent on location) rather than months or years.

You're dealing with a huge amount of stress and pressure but reaching out for support which is brilliant.

Don't give up.

kolomo · 16/05/2022 07:55

It's so hard to keep going. Things can get better. They did for me.

My lowest point was probably in my mid twenties when my mum had just died horribly of cancer and my husband became tetraplegic and then was medically tortured in hospital, traumatising him permanently. I was living in unrelenting poverty, with no access to education or work or hope of escape, caring 24 hours a day, so cold and hungry all the time and I really felt like I was climbing a mountain, clinging to a cliff face with everything I loved lashed to my back and all I wanted to do was just... fall. I was so weary, for so so long.

I could never have imagined my life now from my life then.

It took me many many years to haul us out but I did do it. There's stuff I didn't get all I wanted was a little house and a baby and my happy husband, and I didn't get any of those things. No babies and my husband never got better it was 20 years of pain and anger and heartbreak. My own health was permanently broken by the effort and I will have a shorter life with lots of illnesss in it.

But I'm happy my life is rich and full. I have an immensely meaningful and well paid career, somehow, amazingly. I have so many friends wonderful people who give me so much joy and have stuck with me all this time. I live in a beautiful place and every day I walk under trees and feel so thankful.

Living in that way for so long has made me a bit odd - I don't have much in common with many people I meet - but it's also given me a perspective that I'm grateful for. It actually has made me stronger. It's a cliche. But I feel indomitable.

kolomo · 16/05/2022 07:55

I don't know why some things are crossed out.

Don't give up. x

BigGreen · 16/05/2022 08:12

Klomo Flowers that sounds horrific, I salute your bravery. It's brilliant that you've got to a better place.

For me it was when DH was suicidal and I was pregnant and not working and really scared. I had been bullied in my previous job and we had legal troubles with our flat. I'll never forget lying in bed wondering if my new baby would meet his dad.

Well DH got fab treatment on the NHS, he will always have to manage his awful chronic illness. The pandemic hit and I ended up going off with burnout after so much stress plus work and homeschool. But we're still here, we're taking each day. Sometimes we're happy.

The best thing I did was reading the book the Body Keeps the Score on trauma. It really helped me understand what the hell had happened to DH and then to me.

Thepeopleversuswork · 16/05/2022 08:26

I’m really very sorry that you are going through this.

I haven’t been through anything anywhere near as bad as this but my lowest point probably was leaving my abusive, alcoholic husband when my daughter was 4. I knew it was the right thing to do but the sense of anger and resentment at what had happened to me consumed my life for about five years. When it subsided though I felt fucking fantastic. Amazingly liberated and in control.

This is going to sound platitudinous and patronising and sorry, but it’s true; it did make me who I am. I do firmly believe that this kind of trauma makes people stronger in the long run.

I appreciate that it doesn’t feel like this now. For now you just have to be as kind to yourself as you can.

kolomo · 16/05/2022 11:08

One thing to know, and maybe you do know as you've done this before is, you don't "bounce back". There is rarely a neat ending - I do think stories have endings because we yearn for them so in life.

Don't try to cope. There is no coping. There's living and there's dying, and that's it. You are alive and you will go on. Keep finding out what the new day brings. Bit by bit it changes, too slowly to notice, for the most part. But when you look back, and it might be over years and there might be many troughs, you can see moments when you broke free a little, even if you didn't know it then.

You really can do this. Because you are doing it.

Rory1234 · 16/05/2022 11:34

I was there 5 years ago and I am there again right now (sudden and traumatic loss of one of my parents recently).

Last time I got through it with the help of therapy and taking things one day at a time. My therapist hammered into me that I must constantly remind myself it will pass which does help me keep putting one foot in front of the other.

Every day feels like an endurance task at the moment but every day I remind myself that it will pass and things will get better. Am waiting for counselling right now.

Probably not much use but I hope that things start to improve soon 💐

Knittingchamp · 16/05/2022 11:43

OP I am so sorry that you are going through so much. Please accept virtual hugs from me and my unending respect for all that you are juggling and coping with.

My dark moment was extremely dark and also caused by family (although a very different circumstance). It would be outing to those that know me if I added details, but I can say this: if I could visit the person I was at that time and tell her that life wouldn't stay in awful blackness but end up in genuine wonderful happiness (eventually), I really would. Monty python Humor weirdly got me through the worst moments back then. It was a case of getting through day to day at the time which can I think be a great strategy.

So hopefully I can say it too without sounding too glib - you will, I believe, have a genuinely wonderful and happy life over the years that follow and you will look back on this very hard time and have so much respect for yourself for getting through it, but right now it might be the case for a while that you just focus on getting through each day and being as kind to yourself as you can, until a longer term view is possible.

thetemptationofchocolate · 16/05/2022 11:51

I am in it now, my low point, that is. There is no bouncing here. But I have found something that is helping me to keep going - I borrow my neighbour's dogs and take them out for a walk. I could go out for a walk on my own but the dogs have such fun I can't help but feel better when I am out with them. It's a temporary lift that helps me to believe that one day I will feel better.
If you can find something, anything, that makes you feel less sad, you should do that thing as much as you can. Because we all need something to look forward to.

Fairislefandango · 16/05/2022 12:10

You poor thing. Flowers

I've had a couple of real low points - one was a career-related disaster and the other physical and mental health related. The former meant I had to take a bit of a step into the unknown job-wise, but it ended up being a good move (and caused me to meet future dh!).

The latter was much harder to get over. What helped most was taking up running and knitting, plus reading some good books about how to deal with anxiety. Running helped by getting me healthier and giving me goals, and by giving me headspace and probably some endorphins! Knitting is a continued joy. There's something so life-enhancing about discovering later in life a new pastime you truly love!

LanaGardner · 16/05/2022 12:14

I'm a really crap myself and at the moment I can't see a future, but I'm trying to make myself do all the things I know have helped in the past it's not easy and I'm saying all this to myself just as much as you.
Change something, ANYTHING something that your physical health and monetary situation will allow.
Change the room around if you sit in exactly the same place sit somewhere else.
Break patterns, we get stuck in the same things over and over.
Walk a different route, go to different places (again ignore if mobility is an issue)
Sow some seeds, even if you don't have a garden sow some on your windowsill
I realised the other day this was the first time I think in my adult life I hadn't started growing stuff, so I put a packet of supermarket dried peas (50p) on my order, soaked them overnight and just threw them all in the garden with bugger all effort
I had to really make myself do that and I felt nothing.
Sowing seeds does something, when we have lost all hope it tells our brains there is a tommorow, there is hope even if you don't feel it at all.
Have seen this morning tons of seed shoots poking through and f me I realised I smiled I didn't feel very much but I smiled..
Even doing something like putting a pile of twigs in the corner of your garden if you have one which within hours will benefit creatures sends a message to your brain "I have purpose"
Thanks so much for posting this
I hope you find something that works for you.

LanaGardner · 16/05/2022 12:20

thetemptationofchocolate · 16/05/2022 11:51

I am in it now, my low point, that is. There is no bouncing here. But I have found something that is helping me to keep going - I borrow my neighbour's dogs and take them out for a walk. I could go out for a walk on my own but the dogs have such fun I can't help but feel better when I am out with them. It's a temporary lift that helps me to believe that one day I will feel better.
If you can find something, anything, that makes you feel less sad, you should do that thing as much as you can. Because we all need something to look forward to.

@thetemptationofchocolate
That's brilliant 😊

welshladywhois40 · 16/05/2022 20:22

I have had three low points in my life, sudden death of a parent, marriage implosion, miscarriage,

For me - while in the middle of the crisis or low point - each event always felt much worse then the other - as you are living through the hell at the time. So my marriage implosion was a good thing but at the time felt worse than my mum dying.

How did I cope - a range of things. A good support network, having a purpose - so for each event I pretty much through myself into work and then finally hope - hope that in time all would be ok.

A580Hojas · 16/05/2022 20:31

I've been through my parents divorcing and my Mum being a depressed alcoholic after who I had to live with.

Then many year later my Dad dying of lung cancer.

Currently my Mum (91) reaching the end of her life and taking up a lot of my time and mental space.

But definitely, without a doubt, the worst time I have ever been through was one of my children being depressed. Nothing else comes near.

ParkheadParadise · 16/05/2022 20:38

The murder of my beautiful dd when I was 7 months pregnant with dd2.
Part of me died that day. Grief takes you to places you can't imagine. It's something you never recover from.
My mum died 2 years after dd.
It's 6 years now and dd2 has helped me to keep going and smile again.

autienotnaughty · 16/05/2022 20:42

Five years ago, I was in a high stress job dd was having 20/30 meltdowns a day (later diagnosed with autism) dm had terminal cancer, dgd was end of life. I had a breakdown, I hit bottom then started to pick up. Valium got me out of bed I had CBT, did a mindfulness course, did hypnotherapy, took up yoga and meditation started walking. It took about two years to feel better. Dm and dgd both died, I lost my job but I persevered. I've been ok about 3 years now and dd is amazing.

coodawoodashooda · 16/05/2022 20:47

Think small victories as often as you can.

carefullycourageous · 16/05/2022 20:53

For me I had a wise counsellor who told me not worry about what I couldn't manage, but to embrace whatever I could and do that to the best of my ability. I managed to stop feeling I 'should' do this or that, and started to focus on what I was actually doing.

It was extremely incremental but it was a real turning point.

TheHatinaCat · 16/05/2022 20:55

I've had a few ups and downs. Nothing as traumatic as some of the stories on here. I can relate to the ADHD and messing up the career though.

I don't think people do bounce back. It's more of a case of the clouds slowly clearing and then eventually you notice it's a beautiful and things feel better. What has worked for me in the past is doing things that make me feel happier/better. So when life is a bit shit, I ask myself what would make me feel better right now and I do that.

Also, always always be kind to yourself. Speak to yourself kindly as if you were a small child or a beloved pet. Never ever criticise yourself. Positivity is very powerful.

BessieBeach · 16/05/2022 20:59

My mum and dad died within 2 years of one other, both cancer, both in their early 60’s. I was just beginning to feel some contentment in life again when out of the blue my husband ended our marriage. I spent 18 months hiding away and took up a few quiet hobbies at home. I just went to ground. 18 months later, I met someone new and wonderful. I’m happier now than I have been for years. During the tough times, I just kept going… remembering the saying ‘when you’re going through Hell, just keep going.’

NoSleepOnceAgain · 16/05/2022 21:02

I really want to thank everyone for telling me about their most painful phases, and how they did or do cope with it.

I tranquillised myself with valium today to make it all stop for now. Not ideal, but I honestly feel the level of distress I was in was crucifying - like it would cause damage had I let it continue. I had utterly had enough.

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Verbena87 · 16/05/2022 21:09

mine was a loved one’s severe mental illness. I had shit boundaries and burnt myself out trying to fix/save them. I agree with a previous poster that you don’t ‘bounce back’ but you can slowly grow forwards. For me what helped was

*talking therapy (NHS. Check your local IAPT services - just Google and you should be able to self refer online)

  • running (started with couch to 5k)

*time outdoors

  • accepting that there are some things I can’t fix and, after one violent psychotic outburst too many, cutting contact with my loved one. This was the hardest because I’m desperate to feel like A Good Person and my withdrawal really hurt both of us, but it was also vital to my wellbeing in the end.

sounds like you are up against an awful lot just now. Just keep buggering on - it really won’t be this way forever. X

NoSleepOnceAgain · 16/05/2022 21:12

Also, always always be kind to yourself. Speak to yourself kindly as if you were a small child or a beloved pet. Never ever criticise yourself. Positivity is very powerful.

Sometimes I can do this but sometimes I just cannot.

I'm not a beloved pet, I'm more like a very disabled runt of the litter that should have been compassionately put to sleep for my own benefit lol.

Not that other disabled people are like that OF COURSE, before anyone takes that meaning from it. But I kind of sadly am.

It's hard to explain. I'm very good at enjoying life and am thankful I'm here and still alive thanks to modern medicine. But my life is so, so far from what I hoped and that is literally in every area - I realistically can't become a mother. And can't earn enough money so depend on DP and am so guilty and ashamed.

I am a parasite. Sometimes I can be at peace with that and others not at all.

And really - I shouldn't be allowed to be ok with that? You only have to read any amount of threads here on Mumsnet about how women should retain financial independence for numerous reasons, and it's obvious that I have failed at being considered a valid proper human being. That's leaving out the fact I've failed as I will never be a mum, despite wanting to.

What else is there exactly?

Sure, right now I'm enjoying a perfect cup of tea listening to birdsong outside my flat window, and am content. But that isn't really enough for a whole life - not when you wanted to have children and had dreams for modest success at some job.

I dunno. A good cup of tea, a lovely scoop of ice cream or a really dry glass of wine are all great things, but they aren't enough to make up for not having basically any other outlet for joy.

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Titsflyingsouth · 16/05/2022 21:13

I'm sorry, Op. I've been there and it's exhausting.

Lowest points:

  1. sudden death of Dad when I was 17, combined with angsty relationship with toxic narcissistic boyfriend which robbed me of all my self-worth. All of which triggered years of anxiety, depression, self-destructive behaviour and (I admit) some pretty fucked up and selfish actions sometimes.

I didn't pull myself out of it, so it speak. It was a slow gradual healing over about 6-10 years where time, space and surrounding myself with good people helped me back on my feet.

  1. Supporting my Mum through a slow, painful and undignified final illness, with an NHS that had completely ceased to function effectively - so getting anything other than A&E treatment was a horrendous battle.

I resonate strongly with what you say about feeling broken and hollow. That was exactly where I was at. I went back to work 4 weeks after she died because I had to. But in truth I was exhausted and I'm no way ready. Again, the love of my husband and son have kept me going. Good people are what matters. And my dog.

But rest as much as you can. The stress you've been under takes a huge toll on the body and you will take a while to bounce back physically. Emotionally speaking - just be gentle on yourself. Practice mindfulness. It's a cliche but one day at a time is important. Baby steps.

Nevergoingtobemrsjones · 16/05/2022 21:27

7 years ago I was raped by someone I would have said was my best mate
i lost everything-and I mean everything-my children,my home,my job,my friends,my family,(no great loss on them to to be fair) my health-everything and then had a nervous breakdown
i had the clothes I stood up in and that was about it
it forced me to look at myself-and to start putting me first
there is a 4 month gap in my life where I don’t remember anything that happened
it started to get better,but slowly-I had (and still have) bad days
i started college and trained into a better career but really had to fight my brain every minute of everyday
i met my now dp,took ‘my’ rapist to court-which he won-not guilty-and I moved away from the area
i wouldn’t say life is perfect-it never will be,but it’s bearable now
still have really dark days though
im shocked at how little help there is for women who really need it