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To think food info has gone bonkers?

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EleonorBronte · 15/05/2022 16:12

Since the rise of SM and youtube, etc, there are never ending streams of 'experts' espousing some new rule or pseudo science about nutrition and weight loss.

Some examples I have seen both on here and elsewhere online:

"If you have IBS then never eat protein with carbs at any meal"

"I lost 4 stone just doing yoga" (with added picture of dramatically photoshopped waist).

"Going vegan cured my rosacea, acne, anxiety" (So most teens and adults with skin issues just need to quit animal products and voila!).

"Bread is death". (enough said).

"Most people cure IBS by going dairy free, gluten free, etc" (er no, not me, mine is stress related and down to food complexity, not type)

"A fully plant based diet cures gut issues" (but can actually cause some, especially leafy veg and salad greens)

It's all about populism isn't it? One young woman I found on youtube last night looking into IBS had achieved 300K followers in a year just sitting in front of the camera looking attractive and telling everyone what they ought to quit eating. Which was nearly everything that didn't come in a vegan franken-packet from Waitrose. I imagine a lot of young people idolising this are either overweight or suffering pain, and are convinced they will look like her and gain her lovely, terrifyingly clean apartment if they simply switch their diet up.

Surely it's all bollox? We know many people cure gut issues via eliminating certain foods, and that's natural. But there is so much contradictory, populist rubbish floating about that feels as if it is an ego boost to the creator rather than any practical use at all.

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CaptainMyCaptain · 15/05/2022 16:14

That isn't food info though it's just bollocks. Faux scientific clap trap.

StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind1 · 15/05/2022 16:16

I ignore it all and eat whatever I like.
I've not died yet.

Fairislefandango · 15/05/2022 16:16

YANBU. As someone with possible IBS or intolerance issues and a history of unidentified allergy symptoms, none of which any gp has been much help with, I sympathise with people who are clutching at these straws. It's shit that these frauds and snake-oil merchants exploit that.

EleonorBronte · 15/05/2022 16:17

It's disturbing how many people are hanging on to their every word. But yeh, that's the internet.

I avoided bread for 6 years, like tool, after erading it would give me diabetes. And there I go thinking myself intelligent Grin In fact, my IBS loves bread and it always calms my stomach. As with anything, moderation and a good balance.

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EleonorBronte · 15/05/2022 16:20

And a lot of these people, especially the younger ones seem to become popular by exploiting their good looks. And the fans evidently think any association with them will rub off on themselves. Most of the footage involves enormous, excessively expensive meals that the creator very likely does not finish eating - especially 6 massive meals per day. A whole lot of consumer waste and posing, really.

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Georgeskitchen · 15/05/2022 16:50

Are any of these people qualified nutritionists?

EleonorBronte · 15/05/2022 18:26

I don't think so, but you'd be surprised how many, who look about 19, say they are. It's grim.

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rainyskylight · 15/05/2022 18:32

Just a quick note to say thank you for the phrase “stress related and down to food complexity”. This is entirely me but I’ve never really articulated it so succinctly before.

EleonorBronte · 15/05/2022 21:24

rainyskylight · 15/05/2022 18:32

Just a quick note to say thank you for the phrase “stress related and down to food complexity”. This is entirely me but I’ve never really articulated it so succinctly before.

It's difficult to find out, isn't it?
I eliminated everything, no joy. Until switching to simple cheese on toast or potato and salmon during an illness taught me that less complexity was soothing.
I had previously been snaffling tons of ingredients per meal, getting my 20 a day, lol, and my gut was going crazy down there!

Xmas dinner destroys me within 10 mins of eating it. If I just have the meat, two spuds, and a small amount of the other basic veg I am ok. The full monty is a no go.
If i have handful of strawberries and blueberries I am fine. But if I add 2 more varieties of fruit I am in pain. Sadly NHS stresses massive variety and complexity but it doesn't work for all of us. You wonder how we survived before global shipping having to eat local...doesn't seem to hurt other animals.

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ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 15/05/2022 21:30

Kefir and live yoghurt gave me terrible terrible diorreah and tummy pains.

I ended up getting piles from it.

TruthHertz · 15/05/2022 21:33

Mainly for hipsters and fat people wanting a quick cure IMHO. Women don't really need to train much differently from men, aside from probs less focus on getting big biceps/triceps etc.

If you want a toned body you find your calorific maintenance level and either eat less to lose fat or eat more whilst lifting weights to tone up, ensuring you have enough protein. IMO the most attractive female bodies (outside of professional dancers etc) are created by compound lifts - squats, deadlifts, etc.

EleonorBronte · 15/05/2022 21:38

I'd be happy with a less flat arse and perhaps toned upper arms. I'm not overweight and probably shouldn't lose any but I have always been very soft bodied even when most active.

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TruthHertz · 15/05/2022 21:53

EleonorBronte · 15/05/2022 21:38

I'd be happy with a less flat arse and perhaps toned upper arms. I'm not overweight and probably shouldn't lose any but I have always been very soft bodied even when most active.

I'd wholeheartedly recommend some weight training. Some lucky women seem to have naturally athletic figures and can stay fairly toned by just keeping their weight down, although with age it's harder to stay toned without weights and you can be what they call 'skinny fat' (google for examples) where you're relatively slim and light but not very toned.

Women with more of a 'pear' or 'apple' shape tend to need to lift weights to look athletic or toned IME. I love lifting as I can eat shitloads and still be slim. Spending 1.5 hours in the gym 3x a week is preferable to me to constantly eating like a sparrow.

TruthHertz · 15/05/2022 21:55

This is a good example. Pretty much same weight but on the right she looks much firmer despite eating 600 cals a day more.

To think food info has gone bonkers?
Haudyourwheesht · 15/05/2022 22:37

My DS is undergoing tests for coeliac and a friend earnestly told me that that was a good thing as gluten is so awful for everyone anyway..Yup. Bring on the autoimmune diseases.

EleonorBronte · 16/05/2022 00:33

Haudyourwheesht · 15/05/2022 22:37

My DS is undergoing tests for coeliac and a friend earnestly told me that that was a good thing as gluten is so awful for everyone anyway..Yup. Bring on the autoimmune diseases.

What does this mean, I possibly misunderstood? You mean gluten is or isn't contributing to auto immune disease?

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EleonorBronte · 16/05/2022 00:34

TruthHertz · 15/05/2022 21:53

I'd wholeheartedly recommend some weight training. Some lucky women seem to have naturally athletic figures and can stay fairly toned by just keeping their weight down, although with age it's harder to stay toned without weights and you can be what they call 'skinny fat' (google for examples) where you're relatively slim and light but not very toned.

Women with more of a 'pear' or 'apple' shape tend to need to lift weights to look athletic or toned IME. I love lifting as I can eat shitloads and still be slim. Spending 1.5 hours in the gym 3x a week is preferable to me to constantly eating like a sparrow.

Thanks for info and pic. I would like to do something at home, i ought to look into it.

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NorthernLights5 · 16/05/2022 01:09

What does this mean, I possibly misunderstood? You mean gluten is or isn't contributing to auto immune disease? Coeliac disease is an auto immune disease. So the body attacks itself when gluten is consumed.

The villi in the intestines go flat. They are supposed to stand up to absorb nutrients and minerals. I had a pot belly when I was a child before being diagnosed (No blood tests for it a few years ago) as I was severely malnourished. I was so ill the doctors thought I had leukaemia.

TruthHertz · 16/05/2022 09:28

EleonorBronte · 16/05/2022 00:34

Thanks for info and pic. I would like to do something at home, i ought to look into it.

A good home exercise is goblet squats, where you squat while holding a dumbell - loads of video examples on youtube. Resistance bands with door anchors can also be used to tone your upper body.

Although, that said, I find it harder to be motivated at home and prefer to just get in the gym and get it done. But if thats not an option a lot can be achieved at home.

Haudyourwheesht · 16/05/2022 10:12

Sorry, I mean she said that gluten is bad even if you don't have coeliac, so cutting out gluten would be better for you regardless.

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