Boris Johnson's comments on WFH

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Sorry if this has already been done I have had a look expecting some threads on it.
I just get more angry the more I think about his comments about WFH not working and how people spend it going to fridge every 5 minutes.
From my experience of my team who I work this is extremely insulting and very untrue. For a start we are ridiculously busy and anyone slacking would quickly be noticed. It makes me wonder what he actually does day to day if he has time to keep going to the fridge.
For me and most of my team we actually get through more work at home. We actually did hybrid working with us all coming in twice a week. This was quickly reduced to once a week as many colleagues and I felt we were getting alot less work done. To many distractions/meetings running over/people late due to transport etc.
AIBU to say WFH does work? And would also like to know if other feel they are more productive in the office or at home?

To add I did write in paragraphs! I don't know why the formats changed

There are huge numbers of people who were already working from home pre-covid so seems silly to assume everyone has changed their working pattern and that it doesn’t work.

I would say WFH might not work as well for people who has chosen to work in an office, it can take time to adjust to WFH.

For me, most of my team WFH so I do hybrid working. I do like to see people in the office. At home, I’ve so many meetings, I’m lucky to run to the loo, definitely not looking in the fridge!

I don't doubt that it's his experience of working from home.

It's certainly not mine. I am far more productive at home than in the office because I don't get distracted chatting to colleagues or getting drawn into the tea/coffee rounds etc.

I should have added to the first sentence of my post - in my experience, lazy twats are lazy twats, regardless of whether they're in the office or at home.

Considering its Boris Johnson saying it, he can go fuck himself. I'm sure I do more work in half an hour than he would struggle to do in a year of being pm. He is a completely useless buffoon with as much intelligence as a rock. And if he wants to try and force us public sector lot back into the office, go right ahead mate, I'll find work elsewhere. That will be good for you, firing 90,000 staff and having to rehire them back at extra cost because you've pissed the rest of us off.

Absolute fucked up twat of a man. He needs to learn to shut up and actually please the people in his country, not piss us off further. Moron.

It works for some people and companies, but it doesn’t work for others and I don’t think there’s anything wrong with acknowledging that. I’m office based because my job can’t be done from home, but DH much prefers going in to work, partly because we don’t have room at home for him to have a comfortable set-up with all the tech he needs.

the fact anyone thinks he is serious baffles me, there is a clear reason he is saying this crap.

the civil services jobs cut is centred around not rehiring for those leaving, what better way of getting large swathes to voluntarily leave (so no paying large redundancy packages or dealing with the unions to that level) than to make it unattractive for many to stay.

How anyone takes seriously a single word that lying, cheating, narcissistic, selfish spoilt arsenole says is absolutely beyond me. Just because he has never actually done an honest days work in his life doesn't mean the rest of us should be tarred with the same brush.

I have mixed feelings on this. If you were in the office full time before the pandemic, and your employer wants you back full time, I think that's up to them, without the unions getting involved. You have the right to ask them to consider flexible working, and if they decline, you have the choice of going back into the office or finding a new job.

Remote working is more appropriate for some jobs than others. In financial services, it would have been very difficult in my early career as the on-the-job learning would have been compromised.

We have come to realise that anything that comes out of Boris Johnson’s mouth is either a downright lie or utter BS - this latest offering from the class clown is no different. Treat it with the contempt and derision it deserves.

It simply speaks volumes about his own work ethics. It ties in with the fact that apparently when he was supposed to be self-isolating the staff had to put chairs up in front of his door as a sort of makeshift baby gate to remind him that he couldn't wander around no. 10 infecting everyone.

Boris, judging those who WFH by his own staggeringly low standards

He really can get to fuck. Odious creature

In many cases people who were full time in the office have discovered they/their subordinates are as effective or more so at home

( yes not all jobs or all people , but a significant number nevertheless. Value diversity)

Leading to real problems with a government unable to respond to the changing nature of work and society

Changes that are good for the planet

decentralising would also relieve pressure on London and its infrastructure, enable more people to live where they want and have work at the same time, to regenerate places like the Welsh valleys

A fantastic opportunity to restructure and rebuild better , but he's so clever he can't imagine anything different

I work across multiple time zones. My team only come online 4/6 pm. I pick up conversations in the evening because I'm logged in already.

But I'd not go into the office, and stay until 7/8 pm to chat to my manager, then do an 1.5 commute home.

My company get SO much more from me WFH.

Extremely insulting. When I worked in the office, people myself included would go to the kitchen for a coffee and end up chatting to someone for 20 mins, this could be twice a day. Then someone would come to your desk with a ‘quick question’ and then be there for 5/10/15 mins. This just doesn’t happen at home.

Sorry forgot

That to add paragraphs is hard these days

Johnson would be better advised not drawing any further attention to his own peculiar behaviour around fridges.

Of course it works for some teams

and then there are the teams it doesn’t work for like ours everyone else has to pick up the pieces it creates more work for others

also fed up of calling certain services and the excuse working from home is made those working from home should still be able to provide the full service they do when in the office

I've been into the office a few times in last few weeks and I've got nowhere near the amount done that I would at home. Obviously there have been some benefits about seeing people, etc but in terms of actual volume of work achieved, being in the office is definitely not a boost in that department for us!

No, there is nothing wrong with acknowledging that. But he didn't do that.

I think he is trying it on .Scaring CS with redundancies if they dont hot foot it back to the office FT. Most of them have been working 3 day weeks anyway.Not at home all week.That odious sidekick JRM saying hes checking the weather forecast ,to see if more people home when its sunny ,or Test Match on FFS!

I was absolutely shocked on my return to the office this week to realise just how little work I manage to get done there and how non-conducive to concentration the office environment is.

It's odd because I have been taking much longer breaks since working from home and assumed that my productivity had just remained level with what it was when I worked from an office. It actually turned out that I am getting around 3-4 times as much work done whilst working from home, despite 'wasting' a whole bunch of time.

In an office there are just so many horrid distractions. You spend ages getting your computer screens and equipment set up correctly, then colleagues chatting to you and/or interrupting your work. There is all the time wasted going from one meeting room to another and setting up again, wiping down desks and surfaces etc. You can't concentrate because of other people's noise, it:s too loud, too bright, too hot/cold. You don't have instant access to the things you need to make yourself comfortable and refreshed enough to get on with your work. It's crazy.

I mean, it's nice to see your colleagues, nice to catch up, have a chat and have a more civilised, slower paced workday. It's nice to be in a different environment and be away from your family for a bit. But it's definitely not conducive to productivity. I'm basically paying £15 a day in transport costs and adding 2.5 hours to my working day to get significantly less work done (and give myself a migraine in the process because the lighting in the office play havoc with my eyes). I'm glad we are only doing hybrid working. Over my dead body would I work full time in an office again.

This.

Thankfully, the lazy ones in our team who sat back and cruised in their job were quickly managed out and replaced. I work damn hard from home as I'm given flexibility around DS so Boris can do one, and take his opinion with him.

Just another way this guy is Trump's minime.

I have adhd and work from home and still manage not to get distracted. I keep myself on track. Boris is a prat