Out of control dogs

[missmelons88]

The increasing amount of unruly dogs is caused by our humanisation and resulting lack of control of our pet dogs. I see people being dragged to the park all the time, they let the dog go and meet it at the other side.

They don't think their dog chased anything because they didn't see it, meanwhile it's running after ducks. The dog has good recall because it eventually came back.. etc etc.

Unruly = anything from no recall to an dog that bites their handler.

Discuss.

There isn't anywhere to go to stay away from the damn things. They're everywhere, off lead, dangerous. Maiming people, hospitaising them, every single day

Im sure the dog nuts would want people to shut up about children being savaged to death on a regualer basis. Well tough shit because people have had enough of worm riddled stinking growling savage monsters taking over every space off leash

Please post the stats about children being mauled by dogs on a regular basis.
And compare to men attacking their own partners and their own children too.

i see a lot of people putting head in the sand not wanting to discuss an obvious issue.

Just because dog ownership has become tied up with this, doesnt mean all dog owners are in the spotlight.

There is obviously a problem, I have witnessed a few shitty things where I live, and it isnt being goady to talk about it.

Some irresponsible arseholes keep dogs. That's that. This issue isnt going to go away, and i largely consider it to be class based. No one wants to discuss that, but it's there. It's the elephant in the room, often twinned with toxic masculinity and poverty. I've honestly never seen dogs as neglected and savage as those on troubled estates.

Stop avoiding the issue
Is there a problem with dogs maiming and killing people, especially children and the vulnerable
Yes or no?

If you think there is , then the onus is on you to state such figures.
Burden of truth, and all that.

Bitch, im asking you?

There isn’t. I know you aren’t asking me but I’ll answer.

There is an issue - and there always has been - with irresponsible people having dogs they don’t know how to handle, don’t have enough time or space for, can’t afford to keep properly (good quality food, medical check ups, etc) . No wonder their dogs get stressed and snappy.

No it's the dog.
Please stop minimising the savagery of whats happening by using terms like 'stessed out and snappy'. Another child has died a horrific death

@bellamountain I train my dog best I can buy off his leas he will run and jump up at people which is so unacceptable but I can't attempt it as he's a big boy. He gets too happy to listen same as a lot of little dogs so they should be on a lead too. Every dog without a perfect recall shouldn't be off lead in a public space

Because of the way the owners treated the dog. It’s not the breed. We have a pit bull. I’ve seen more aggressive chihuahuas than our pit bull. Because they were in homes with people who didn’t look after them properly. There’s a lot more to dog ownership than opening cans of Pedigree and filling a water bowl. They need exercise, stimulation, company, attention…or they go crazy. Just as a human would in those circumstances.

Ignore all the people saying you don’t like dogs OP, they are probably the ones who let their dogs do whatever the hell they want and pay no attention. There is no hope of these people considering any one or any other animal but themselves and theirs. And even if something did happen and their dog hurt someone or another animal, they would blame someone else for it.

Yes people are shitty dog owners who let their dogs run way ahead of them and after ducks etc - then use the excuse of “no the dog isn’t agressive etc”, when they have no idea if someone else’s dog is old and impatient for instance, has injuries and is sensitive. They just don’t care and have zero emotional intelligence.

@EleonorBronte

Ive seen as many women on their phones with dogs way off lead running everywhere getting in other dogs faces while their owners pay zero attention as I have men.

Jeezo. Lots of people on this thread really don't like dogs.

I don't trust people that don't like dogs. 👀

Also yes I'm one of the people you all hate. My dog has bogging recall but I let him off lead in woods and fields etc. He doesn't bother other dogs unless they're off lead and he's the soppiest dog known to man so no toddler eating fears here.

I just don't care enough about the comfort of a few people who turn their noses up at dogs to keep him on a lead constantly 🤷🏻‍♀️

@collieresponder88
Just spat my tea out 😆

Actually no a lot of people on here are dog owners and lovers which is why people who let their dogs run way off lead (where they’re not meant to be) without a thought for anyone else annoy them. They can hurt other animals not just other dogs - ie ducks at lakes etc. And no matter how friendly your dog is, he can still knock over a small child, plus you have no idea how your dog would react if the child did something stupid or unintentionally harmful to your dog like poked its eye etc. your dog may be startled and agressive - that doesn’t mean your dog is a bad dog, just a normal one, it means it is uncontrolled by it’s owner.

let’s say an older person who can’t easily seperate fighting dogs wants to walk their small dog who may be frightened and agressive if another dog runs up on them, where you are walking with your dog. Because your dog is off lead ahead of you you can’t contain the situation before the dogs get in a fight.

It’s not just a few people, people are simply to polite or can’t be bothered to start something with you over it in public. When people have to pick up their dogs or keep them close because yours is running around ahead of you and they have no idea how your dog will be or how their dog might react - they are annoyed. When people see a dog off lead running up on their small child they are annoyed. When people see off lead dogs chasing after wild life in public parks they are annoyed.

People have to take extra care because of people like yourselfs selfishness.

Out of control dogs are a nuisance and on occasion can be dangerous. Out of control humans are dangerous and a far greater problem than dogs.

@Tillyvonpantsalo
Exactly! It's not a bloody Labrador with it's paw hovering over a nuclear button is it ?

This is a straw man argument and distraction from the topic tactic. Y is bad so X can't be that bad.
Other bad things happen so why we do we care about this
People drink drive but people go over the speed limit as well, whats the problem

YANBU. I am sick of all the dogs running up at us, trying to lick my children or sniff with their snouts right into my kids' private areas (or indeed anywhere). Dog owners yell "don't worry, they are friendly". Not the point. Not everyone likes dogs, not everyone wants to be bounded upon. I hate what this culture has become, it has gotten way out of hand.

Of course it's the breed. Bully breeds are bred for violence. It is in their DNA. Of course, chihuahuas are aggressive little monsters, but they simply don't have the capacity to inflict the damage that bully breeds do.
Pitbulls are illegal in this country. Why do you have one?

chihuahuas are aggressive little monsters

They’re really not. Most of them are spoilt little divas. I really hope you’re not passing your obvious irrational dislike of dogs on to your kids.

This is exactly the problem - you don't care about other people's comfort enough to keep your dog under control.

My child is petrified of dogs. He also does triathlons. Over lockdown we ended up having to stop any training because there were too many out of control dogs on the loose, chasing him (because he was running/biking, obviously).

It has been a massive disadvantage to him and he has had to stop doing a sport that he loved because of people like you, who don't care about other users of public space.

I've noticed more out of control dogs in my area. My area has always been full of dogs but always fine
Recently ive had two dogs take food from ds in buggy in separate occasions. One owner was devastated the other actually called my son a Nancy?! for crying. We were having a picnic ( in a area were no dogs are allowed) and a dog came over ate our food. The owner just laughed and seemed surprised we were angry.
Dogs in playparks school grounds.
The vast majority are fine.

Dogs wanting to interact with each other does not mean they are out of control, it means they are sentient, social creatures who enjoy each other’s company. I feel sorry for dogs that have never been allowed to learn how to interact with other dogs because they’ve been on a tight lead every moment of their lives attached to a nervous wreck of a person.