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To be overwhelmed by the news that scientists have found a cause fir SIDS?

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BuanoKubiamVej · 13/05/2022 08:48

I've just been in floods of tears remembering all the babies who have died and all the mothers who will never get over their loss - DH saw a retweet of this and told me and I was just completely overwhelmed, didn't even see till later that this reaction was also the same for this tweeter - but the news is wonderful. Scientists at a hospital in Australia have found a deficiency of a specific enzyme in blood samples of babies who died of SIDS and this breakthrough could lead to a screening test that could identify babies that are at a higher risk, and potentially prevent those deaths occurring.

mobile.twitter.com/TheDebbieMia/status/1524867531319787523

I'm shocked that there's so little in the media about it - a Google found a few articles from Australian sources and an article in the Daily Mail - why isn't this bigger news? Are the non-DM newspapers sceptical about the reliability of the research? Surely this is amazing and worth shouting about?

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llibrollibre · 13/05/2022 09:49

It's very interesting and hopefully it can inform future guidance and maybe even screening.

But isn't there a lot of research and ethnographic study showing that regulation of young babies' breathing and arousal during sleep is partly dependent on being very close to their caregiver? ie. the adult's breathing 'reminds' the baby to breathe. Would those with the defect mentioned be at particularly less risk if they slept close to their caregiver (in a safe environment)?

'Safe sleep' practices always miss out this kind of stuff. It's good to see more safe co-sleeping guidance being provided as part of perinatal care as well.

chisanunian · 13/05/2022 09:51

This is good news. The only thing is, of course, that far more research needs to be done before anything could be officially confirmed, so we will have to wait some time for that, but it is certainly a move in the right direction.

Mally100 · 13/05/2022 09:52

Infinitemoon · 13/05/2022 09:28

I read about the theory that SIDS was caused by sleep apnea in babies about 5 years ago now. If you look up Jesssfam on YouTube, her youngest was found unresponsive as a baby (but was fortunately revived) she was diagnosed with sleep apnea, and the doctor mentioned then that she believed this to be the primary cause of SIDS. It’s a great break through

Yes this happened to my DS but combined with an 8 week vaccination and on a incredibly humid afternoon. I think if I would have found him a few minutes later he would have died. For three years we tried to get his tonsils removed as they were large and obstructive but the GP kept on saying he would grow into them. We basically had to monitor him continually until he was 3 years old as he was quite unwell, until they were removed.

He had sleep apnea it runs in our family.

This is so scary and I'm so glad your little one is fine. I didn't have any idea this could be some link to sleep apnea. Both dh and I have it, now I'm aware of it will keep that in mind.

Thatswhyimacat · 13/05/2022 09:55

Any research and progress in this area is a good thing of course, but it is very early days in terms of the research at the moment. It hasn't been proven as a cause and a test may not be available for decades if it is.

anywhichwaytoo · 13/05/2022 09:56

What a huge step forward. Wonderful news!

Emmelina · 13/05/2022 10:14

ArmWrestlingWithChasNDave · 13/05/2022 08:55

It's very early and everyone should be very cautious about hailing this as the single 'cause' for SIDS. This is one of a long list of correlated or contributing factors that have been identified (e.g. parents smoking in the baby's home).

All the pieces of the puzzle will help SIDS rates continue to fall, but don't get carried away thinking this is the end of cot deaths.

Absolutely this.
They’ve found another potential risk factor, that’s wonderful. But it doesn’t eliminate all previous advice regarding smoking, drinking, cosleeping in less than ideal conditions etc. to now ignore this previous advice because of this new research would be reckless.

JaninaDuszejko · 13/05/2022 10:14

@llibrollibre having the baby in the same room as you is heavily promoted as a way of reducing the risk of SIDS. It halves the risk, similar to the impact of BFing. Back to sleep reduced deaths by 81% in the UK. The cosleeping message is more complicated, SIDS is reduced in BF babies who sleep with sober, non-smoking mothers. But not for babies in bed with with a father who smokes or drinks.

OP, there are lots of contributing factors, there won't be one single cause. It's good news but won't have the same impact as the 'good sleep hygiene' campaigns.

Nocutenamesleft · 13/05/2022 10:20

parietal · 13/05/2022 09:03

This research is a step forward but there will be a LOT more work to turn this idea into an actual test that works. And that might not be possible. We don't yet know if this hormone measure can predict anything.

So it is great science, but it is not going to make headlines in every news paper around the world yet.

This isn’t a hormone

this is in regards to an autonomic dysfunction which is neurological.

ouch12345 · 13/05/2022 10:28

Wow this is incredible

sqirrelfriends · 13/05/2022 10:36

This is great news and hopefully will save the lives of many babies.

I find it really sad though, I know a few families who have lost a child through cot death and just wish this information was able to help them too.

Yumyumcakes · 13/05/2022 11:31

whilst it’s an interesting scientific break through that certain infants lack an enzyme to rouse themselves when found in an unsafe sleeping situation which makes them more susceptible to dying, the crux of it seems to be safe sleep. It seems like the study has bundled together position asphyxiation, suffocation and unsafe sleep related deaths with Sids. Sids of course has no known cause, in the instances of true Sids , I’m guessing those infants lacking that enzyme are falling too deeply into sleep and become unable to rouse themselves.

I wonder if this will eventually become part of a screening process, but still I can’t imagine the guidance to mitigate if your child is more susceptible. Safe sleep every sleep, no co sleeping and wake your child every few hours?

Overthewine · 13/05/2022 12:01

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Apairofbrowneyes · 13/05/2022 12:16

I’ve read a few articles about this that I think are problematic and I’m relieved to have not seen it reported in such a way by British media. There are extremely well-proven ways to reduce the incidence of SIDS and any reporting needs to be mindful to not undermine those. It’s fantastic that research is finding these root causes, but until (if ever) effective national screening is happening for this enzyme, then we can’t forget about the safe sleeping measures that are protective.

Overthewine · 13/05/2022 12:19

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Luculentus · 13/05/2022 12:39

Onlyrainbows · 13/05/2022 09:26

We still don't know why some infants die of SIDS. This study showed that there is a biomarker (an enzyme) that some babies who die of SIDS have lower levels of.

Nothing is confirmed- this was a small study that found a correlation, not a causation.

In addition, this has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with safe sleep. Let's remember, most babies that die during their sleep do not die of SIDS, they die from from unsafe sleeping arrangements. An enzyme level will not save your child from positional asphyxia or strangulation.

This. I'm very glad our papers are treating this cautiously.

Yumyumcakes · 13/05/2022 13:13

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I know there are owlets on the market right now for commercial consumption are they different to the Angelcare ones?

i know those sock monitors are actually discouraged right now

Duchess379 · 13/05/2022 23:31

I always think of Anne Diamond and the loss of her son, Sebastian to SIDS. It's amazing that scientists have made a breakthrough 💕

MangshorJhol · 17/05/2022 21:55

This article sets the research in context and why it is an important achievement but not a miraculous breakthrough at all:
www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2022/05/sudden-infant-death-syndrome-cause-study/629886/

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