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Artificial garden lawns - what a weird world

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Figmentofmyimagination · 10/05/2022 21:41

Another installed on our street. I just don’t understand it. Why would anyone do this?

There is a petition to ban their sale for installation in residential dwellings if you want to sign it:

It’s only got 5,900 signatures so far, which seems a pretty low number, given how much of a no brainer this is, imo. Maybe that’s just me.

petition deleted by MNHQ as we don't allow them, we're afraid.

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Furries · 11/05/2022 00:21

Sorry to derail, but just testing something out. I think my notifications finally took me to the correct point in the thread. If so, hurrah!

worriedatthistime · 11/05/2022 00:21

Also why don't people mind there own business anyway
You don't like it don't have it and leave others be
Bet many moaning have huge paved driveways etc which also are not great

skymagentatwo · 11/05/2022 00:22

@TheKeatingFive I'm sorry but I can tell you that there is no reason what so ever to own a fake lawn, no matter how large it is or what your life style is. It is purely down to a lack of knowledge and/or laziness.

People who claim they cant do any thing else in their garden, have a lack of knowledge of botany and gardening skills. People who claim they need it for their kids have a lack of knowledge of how bio-diversity affects their child's futures and how even the smallest insects support our very existence, we are so detached from nature now we seem to think we can survive with out such a diverse biological mix. I'm the last person who you would call a tress hugger or activist but at least I am well versed in the science behind it all.

I'm just glad, the government are now introducing Ecology in to schools, because I can tell you for a fact your children will look back in distain at use of plastics like this and think what were you doing.

By claiming you have an allotment some where else, so its okay to have fake lawns is offsetting is what aboutery, you still are destroying connectivity and causing very localised extinctions of small scale species and it just shows how little knowledge people have of the serious impacts they have.

Call me judgey if you like but, I'm just here to try and provide some advice from a scientific perspective. But plain refusal to accept they are cause wide spread long and short term harm is just plain false.

worriedatthistime · 11/05/2022 00:25

@skymagentatwo i have it because it suits us and we want it and its my garden and I have a choice
I may not agree with the car you drive or the house you have but thats your choice
Leave others be and live your lifes

Magnumpi2 · 11/05/2022 00:28

@chaosmaker Interesting to know about the hydrogen cars. I will look at it. I also only buy a new phone when it breaks. A shame more people don't stop buying just to have the latest crap. We arent bloody teenagers trying to impress our friends anymore. But then again I never was like that as a kid but some people never grow up, or out of the selfish need to have everything .

skymagentatwo · 11/05/2022 00:29

worriedatthistime · 11/05/2022 00:21

Also why don't people mind there own business anyway
You don't like it don't have it and leave others be
Bet many moaning have huge paved driveways etc which also are not great

May be because, we understand that healthy ecosystems provide us with the air we breathe and the food we eat and destroying biodiversity destroys eco-systems.

Habitat loss is the man reason behind the loss of biodiversity in our lifetime and you are only adding to that, so yes I would dare to say we have a right to voice our concerns. Now if you would like to come back and have a scientific argument about it please feel free to let me know more.

worriedatthistime · 11/05/2022 00:29

@Blueberrywitch ours doesn't smell , we hose it and use wash on it and it has good drainage undeneath
I have no drains in m garden so if it was all paved the water would have nowhere to go if we washed it

worriedatthistime · 11/05/2022 00:30

@skymagentatwo do you live in a large house , have a car , go on holiday , have a drive etc

worriedatthistime · 11/05/2022 00:33

@skymagentatwo i don't have to justify my choices to some random on the internet who may or may not have scientific knowledge
I have plenty of plants in my garden and choose mostly the ones that attract bees etc and also have my very tiny patch out front , stocked with plants
And a herb garden for us
But i guarantee you have things or use things that are not great for the enviroment also , unless you live off the land you can't judge
My 1x 4 m bit of astro isn't killing the planet

chaosmaker · 11/05/2022 00:34

@Magnumpi2 www.evehicletechnology.com/news/welsh-hydrogen-car-moves-step-closer-to-production/ There's a load of articles on the trial. The trouble is the government (UK) are obsessed with making stuff from fossil fuels and they want blue hydrogen rather than the green hydrogen extracted from natural sources. It could also be extracted from water. Shame they won't invest in the future and try long term thought processes when making policies.

skymagentatwo · 11/05/2022 00:35

worriedatthistime · 11/05/2022 00:30

@skymagentatwo do you live in a large house , have a car , go on holiday , have a drive etc

@worriedatthistime I live in a tiny house and yes I have a car because I use it to do my job in research and protecting the environment and wildlife. So before you try to start trolling me with some shallow argument, rest assured many of the large scale projects I have worked on and am currently work on have enhanced bio-diversity and nature in vastly large scales than I have harmed. I can quite confidently say I'm leaving the planet in a far better position than what I have harmed in my life, just living it.

skymagentatwo · 11/05/2022 00:36

worriedatthistime · 11/05/2022 00:33

@skymagentatwo i don't have to justify my choices to some random on the internet who may or may not have scientific knowledge
I have plenty of plants in my garden and choose mostly the ones that attract bees etc and also have my very tiny patch out front , stocked with plants
And a herb garden for us
But i guarantee you have things or use things that are not great for the enviroment also , unless you live off the land you can't judge
My 1x 4 m bit of astro isn't killing the planet

This is where our conservation ends, as its pointless talking to some one who does not want to learn, Ignorance is bliss in your case.

worriedatthistime · 11/05/2022 00:37

@skymagentatwo its not trolling you is it you commented on my post I answered
Your car is still doing damage regardless
I don't have one so therefore my 1x4 m astro is doing less damage than your car

Youhaveyourhandsfull · 11/05/2022 00:42

if ever there was a MN no no this seems to be one. I would 100% have one. I’ve had at least 3 lots of turf laid in our garden, it’s north facing, it’s boggy, and for 8 months of the year it’s not really usable. So for year round use of a garden I’d certainly have it so the kids can play out there. Really can’t see these ever being banned.

Codswallop20 · 11/05/2022 00:47

Oh OP. Quit the drama. Do what I am planning.

Replace your outdoor space with different colours of landscape Lego. It does grass, soil, pots, flowers. You can even make your own bees.

When all the losers are starving to death, offer the bastards a Lego and sticklebrick sandwich with a side order of Meccano.

QueenCamilla · 11/05/2022 00:48

Can't be good for those babies either who play on that plastic sheeting. Our immune systems need nature too.

My own child got cured from a debilitating eczema on a holiday where children play on the forest floor and swim in ponds and lakes. He did swallow a bucket of pond water in enthusiasm! I do think it was all that live soup of organic matter that "cured" him.

Makes me sad how far removed we are from the nature that we clearly need.

Do what you want with your tiny concrete courtyards but unfortunately this vile thing is spreading like a disease (the poster mentioning whole estates being built with plastic instead of grass! )

Magnumpi2 · 11/05/2022 00:50

@Codswallop20 😆😆
Just don't go out bare foot

QueenCamilla · 11/05/2022 00:51

@Codswallop20

😂
Well, apparently can't tell any difference anyway... 😁

SkerryVore · 11/05/2022 00:53

My view is that our children are unlikely to have a choice about disposable plastics, optional recycling, plastic grass, one-car-or-two, etc. as those things will seem impossibly backward-thinking in a few short years.

The next generation will have every right to judge this one rather harshly.

BobLep0nge · 11/05/2022 00:53

its not trolling you is it you commented on my post I answered
Your car is still doing damage regardless
I don't have one so therefore my 1x4m astro is doing less damage than your car

Why do people like you always presume those of us that care about our planet drive huge cars, jet off on holiday etc?
Seriously, why do you jump to that conclusion?

DdraigGoch · 11/05/2022 00:55

Princesspeony · 10/05/2022 23:41

Yes we will definitely do raised beds for veg and flowers but really struggling for what to do with the rest and artificial grass seemed like it could maybe be a solution but maybe we should think again! We need to do something as the kids have got permanent scars from falling over on the tarmac and it’s just generally not a great space. What makes it more complicated is that the school was built at the top of the hill and the road sort of curves around and below it so to make the playground levelish they built it up with 15 feet of rubble before laying the tarmac and it’s all held in with large retaining walls so even if you break bits up there’s nothing decent underneath!

Seriously consider planting Irish moss (Sagina subulata). It's good ground cover, nice and soft, and never needs mowing.

Magnumpi2 · 11/05/2022 00:55

@QueenCamilla
There is no cure for eczema but if you think playing outside somewhere did it for your child then alert the medical journals as they certainly they never found that after all these years.

Codswallop20 · 11/05/2022 00:55

To be fair, tis only marginally better than standing on a plug in the dark.

Haven't RTFT. Assume many can go f themselves because usually they can.

😁

worriedatthistime · 11/05/2022 00:57

@BobLep0nge same reason you all assume anyone who has even a little bit of plastic grass is common, doesn't care about the enviroment at all etc
So what your saying is its ok for you to judge but not others

worriedatthistime · 11/05/2022 01:04

@skymagentatwo thing is in our old house where we had a huge patio we often found dried dead frogs so they also died on a dry hot patio
I have never found a dead animal on my astro
We still have mud in borders so have worms , we even have a hedgehog that visits and badgers and foxes out the front part
We also have a pond that attracts wildlife as well

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