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To suggest it’s a uniquely British thing to pluralise company names?

186 replies

ApertureGLaDOS · 04/05/2022 20:56

I actually may be unreasonable as I have no idea about what the rest of the world do, BUT…

… I was watching an episode of Food Theory on YouTube and he mentioned repeatedly, ‘Cadbury’. I found it so weird and jarring because it is known as ‘Cadbury’s’ to me. I suppose on reflection it makes sense because I think we are sold ‘Cadbury’s chocolate’ rather than just a product from Cadbury, but it sticks and I refer to it in that sense all the time (I don’t say Nestle’s or Mars’ for example).

And it’s not just that - I go to Tesco’s, not Tesco. And whilst I don’t say it myself I’ve heard friends shopping at ‘Lidl’s’ and even Asda’s.

So is it a British thing or is pluralising companies in common usage a thing done world over?

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Pythian · 05/05/2022 08:15

My parents say "Aldi's" so they seem to be an extreme example of this tendency!

Getoff · 05/05/2022 08:26

Yes, I think this is a British quirk. I grew up elsewhere, English as first language, and this is something I noticed on arriving in the UK.

Getoff · 05/05/2022 08:35

BanjoKnickers · 04/05/2022 21:19

It makes sense to me. The apostrophe and the "s" makes it possessive - something that someone owns.

I'm going over to Peter's. It's a house owned by Peter.

I'm having my fanny waxed at Maureen's. It's a fanny parlour owned my Maureen.

I'm going to Tesco's. It's a shop owned by Tesco.

Would you say "Asda's, Waitrose's, Walmart's, Sports Direct's, Decathlon's, Superdrug's" if you went to any of those stores?

If there's no consistency in your approach then saying Tesco's is a cultural quirk, and not you following some logical rule.

I say Asda, Tesco, Waitrose, Marks and Spencer etc. None of them have an "s" on the end. I'm not British though.

MyCatKeepsRumblingTheDog · 05/05/2022 08:37

You lot don’t get out much do you? No, this is not just a “British” thing.

Getoff · 05/05/2022 08:38

BanjoKnickers · 04/05/2022 21:38

Well here's an experiment. If the shop was owned by Arthur would you say "I always buy my turnips at Arthur"?

If the shop was called "Arthur", yes. Arthur in this context is the name of the shop, not a person. Where the name came from is irrelevant.

Getoff · 05/05/2022 08:40

I go to Sainsbury, not Sainsbury's. Sainsbury may be the name of a person, but it's also the name of a shop, and it's the shop I'm going to. The name of the company that owns the shop, or the person who founded the company, aren't relevant.

ApertureGLaDOS · 05/05/2022 08:42

I think Wagamama is an interesting example. I also add the ‘s on the end but it’s not a possessive like being described with some of the supermarket names. So no idea what the s on the end is supposed to mean.

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ApertureGLaDOS · 05/05/2022 08:44

Getoff · 05/05/2022 08:40

I go to Sainsbury, not Sainsbury's. Sainsbury may be the name of a person, but it's also the name of a shop, and it's the shop I'm going to. The name of the company that owns the shop, or the person who founded the company, aren't relevant.

But the shop in this instance is called ‘Sainsbury’s’ isn’t it?

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Getoff · 05/05/2022 08:45

Bollocks, I'm wrong about Sainsbury's. I don't ever actually go there, which is why, I think.

Getoff · 05/05/2022 08:45

Bollocks was to myself, not you. Crossed posts, not trying to be rude.

SmugOldBag · 05/05/2022 08:46

Asda's and Waitrose's drive me mental.

Dishh · 05/05/2022 09:53

Getoff · 05/05/2022 08:26

Yes, I think this is a British quirk. I grew up elsewhere, English as first language, and this is something I noticed on arriving in the UK.

I replied earlier saying that Australians do it also - so it isn't a British quirk.

HaveringWavering · 05/05/2022 10:34

Getoff · 05/05/2022 08:45

Bollocks, I'm wrong about Sainsbury's. I don't ever actually go there, which is why, I think.

So why did you say you went there?!

PierresPotato · 05/05/2022 10:50

I think it's rather nice, informal and shows an affection for old high street businesses. (And newer ones like Wagamamas : maybe because it sounds like someone's mum runs it? Asda sounds as family run as NATO so I've never fallen into calling it Asdas)
But then I miss Woolies so am presumably amongst that riff-raff cohort who know no better!😂

I think it's appropriate that Cadbury's are now the stiff, corporate "Cadbury."

Spoken (and informal online) language is going to operate on an instinctual level and no one is teaching kids the standard forms in school, why would they. Let the company communications teams worry about their house styles and leave the rest of us be.

PierresPotato · 05/05/2022 10:59

Thinking about this more deeply I do go to The Spar (and The Big Asda.)

StooOrangeyForCrows · 05/05/2022 11:02

DinoRock · 04/05/2022 21:01

I always call it sainsburys without a ' and Tescos without an '. Its Asdal though not Asda's.

Definitely Asdal here too. You can get there in your Ford Fiestal.😆

StooOrangeyForCrows · 05/05/2022 11:04

We got to Sainsbos or Tescaloids and for anyone that remembers Gateway (or Gateways), when we go to Waitrose, we call it Gaterose to indicate a generic shopping trip.

Brits are indeed weird.

PierresPotato · 05/05/2022 11:04

I've never heard of putting an -l on the end!

I have heard Mataland though.
And Nessles for Nestle is a blast from the past!

StooOrangeyForCrows · 05/05/2022 11:05

PierresPotato · 05/05/2022 11:04

I've never heard of putting an -l on the end!

I have heard Mataland though.
And Nessles for Nestle is a blast from the past!

The L on the end is very Bristol and environs. Bristol was originally called Bristo.

littlegreenheart · 05/05/2022 11:07

It's common in the USA, but it is also common that the legal and/or trading name of the company - if it's a family name or a person's first name - ends in an s or 's. If you visit Macy's or Shaw's or Bloomingdale's, you'll see the apostrophe on the sign.

Recently - by which I mean this century - some companies have changed their names to include 's - and some which were formerly 's have deleted the apostrophe, partly because it causes issues with physical signs but also because of the desire for consistency in marketing and PR, and the inability to handle an apostrophe on the internet. Albertsons, Barneys, and Vons are all recent examples of this.

That said, I don't think it's usual to add an s if the name is not a family name - for example, we do not have Sephora's or Target's or Walmart's. But we do have Piggly Wiggly's - perhaps because it sounds like that could be a personal/family name?

I found this article interesting: archive.ph/JJH90 - please excuse the archival source, it's no longer available on the original site.

BoredZelda · 05/05/2022 11:22

Some older Scottish people (ie those now in their 70s or older) have a weird name for the Co-op- it’s often called “The Coperative” pronounced “coh-per-AY-tive”. A mis- reading/mispronunciation that became widespread.

In my part of Scotland it is known the Co-pay.

CorsicaDreaming · 05/05/2022 11:30

Doyoumind · 04/05/2022 21:02

A lot of them imply ownership as they started as family businesses. Even where they weren't family businesses some people add the s mistakenly believing they were. It only happens in very specific cases though and not as a widespread rule.

@Doyoumind
Yes I agree with this.

So I say I'm going to Clarks' (because I assume it was founded by Mr Clark)

but I'm going to The Spar or The Co-op - or to Tesco or Waitrose - because none are based on surnames (but the Spar / the Co-op as it is The Society for the Protection of the Average Retailer / The Co-operative

But I'd be going to Sainsbury's - because there was a Mr Sainsbury

I have never actually thought about it before but now I do think about it, yes you're right @ApertureGLaDOS - it's really interesting!

CorsicaDreaming · 05/05/2022 11:32

JurasicPerks · 04/05/2022 21:12

I dont know about shops, but the Americans i know often pluralise Lego to Legos which always jars to me.

@JurasicPerks

... and then they call maths "math" which really jars me too!

CorsicaDreaming · 05/05/2022 11:34

Moomeh · 04/05/2022 21:14

Sainsbury's is actually called Sainsbury's, with an apostrophe and an s on the end. Means belonging to Lord Sainsbury. Google the logo

Tesco, Aldi, Lidl, and Marks and Spencer don't have 's on the end.

That's what dh and I call them, ie their correct names... but then again the only person I've ever met who's more pedantic than me is dh

@Moomeh

Lol 😂

I love a good Competition of the Pedants

Or should that be "for the Pedants". 😳

CactusFlowers · 05/05/2022 11:37

What about big Tesco and little Tesco?

Do the Dutch, for example say little AH and big AH?