I haven’t seen a thread yet? Supreme Court to overturn legal right to abortion in the US.

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Roe v Wade: US Supreme Court may overturn abortion law, leak suggests www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-61302740

And if this is successful, how long before similar decisions are made over here and elsewhere where women still have the right to bodily autonomy.

Fuck. This is terrible. Praying it doesn’t happen.

Huge step back for women if this happens. Terrible.

its like we are going back in time.

Surely not?

How is this possible?

There are 2 threads going already in the feminist section.

Of course it is fine to post another one anywhere you like, but there is lots of good information on those.

I know.My heart sank for the women of America when I heard the news this morning.

it will give other countries an opening. And that’s dangerous

I don’t think it will come up here. However, a lot of the corrupt shit that’s gone on I wouldn’t have believed of the uk

Horrifying that it's being proposed.

As early as possible, as late as necessary.

It's quite sickening, I really hope it isn't true, but sadly many women have predicted exactly this.

This is actually frightening. It’s like civilisation is starting to regress, we are going backwards and religion has a lot to do with it.

It’s horrible. But to clarify overturning Roe vs Wade will eliminate federal level law requiring the states to keep certain abortions legal while giving a framework for allowable restrictions on abortion. The Supreme Court, if this opinion goes official, is deleting federal law on abortions thereby leaving abortion law up to the individual states to determine. Many states want to ban abortion outright. But other more liberal states want to pass laws with fewer restrictions on abortion. Its a cowardly washing of the hands to refuse to have a federal, nationwide law protecting womens right to an abortion. Theoretically, women could move to a liberal state to keep their rights but that’s not possible in real life due to poverty, job nonavailability, cost of living, family support and so on.

I am very disappointed in the USA and terrified for American women but I don’t think we have any chance of going the same way. We’ve been becoming more unified along a liberal abortion path rather than less liberal as a United Kingdom with abortion now decriminalised in NI. We are also more liberal than most European countries.

I think it's horrible and a massive step back for womens right.

Your other concern of it happening in the UK is not something I see happening. American politics is very embedded in religion in a way not seen here.

I'm Irish and it was the Catholics churches influence over the government that lead to it taking so long for the abortion referendum to take place in Ireland. But when put to the public it was massively favoured.

It's sickening. They are basically sanctioning the deaths of countless women and long-term health issues for many others because they're not getting rid of abortion, they're just making safe abortion illegal. Like always, those who seek it will find it elsewhere and it'll be painful and dangerous. It's fucking barbaric.

They'll go for contraception next.

America is turning into an Evangelical theocracy. They want women subjugated and they want men in control.

It's an awful step for women in the USA, but there is no reason to think this will have any impact or influence on abortion rights in the UK.

For all people can't see it happening in the UK, Boris Johnson would literally do almost anything to get one of those world class trade deals. What's a few abortion laws in exchange for cheap goods?

Rubbish. Boris is a clown but I don't believe he'd allow interference in UK women's access to abortion for a trade deal.

America

land of the free
home of the brave

if you're a white man

truly shocking decision

I'm not saying it on the horizon or that it's been considered, I'm just saying that our government are not exactly paragons of virtue and that they'd sell over their own grandmother if they thought it would benefit them. If it was ever put to them that they could gain something from rolling back abortion laws then I'd put money on them taking that offer.

I'm not saying it on the horizon or that it's been considered, I'm just saying that our government are not exactly paragons of virtue and that they'd sell over their own grandmother if they thought it would benefit them. If it was ever put to them that they could gain something from rolling back abortion laws then I'd put money on them taking that offer.

I don't actually see the point in every single thread on here becoming an opportunity to have a go at the tories for something that they haven't and wouldn't do. Yes they're crap. But I don't think there is a chance they would do something like this. They know how it would go down here. I don't think it's within Boris' politics to do this. And politics here are very different to the US.

It was posted in agreement with the idea that it makes it easier for other governments to rolls back rights as it sets a precedent, it wasn't intended to derail the thread.

It's horrific, like they've watched the Handmaid's Talk and thought it was an instruction manual. My heart breaks for the women of America.

Didn’t they change something recently about employers health insurance and contraception?
i have a very very vague recollection of them restricting it or controlling it in someway.

Shocking, am really upset.

@EvilPea yes. They changed the law so employer provided healthcare plans (which is how most ppl get it) could refuse to offer contraception and abortion services as part of the plan, due to religious or similar grounds. Lots of of catholic based companies, a lot of which are hospital and healthcare providers, have made this change

the only way you can get it otherwise is to pay out of pocket - I.e. your insurance doesn’t cover it and you pay privately or try and get to a planned parenthood or simliar clinic.