To think that Boris bringing back the 'Right to buy' scheme from the 80s is a terrible idea

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Just this really. I think it's a slap in the face for all those private renters who cannot afford to buy a home, and just a horrible idea.
Boris Johnson mulls a new Right to Buy scheme as housebuilding hits the curb (cityam.com)

Not sure if link above works, but you can google it.
Evidently he is 'mulling over' the idea of bringing back Margaret Thatcher's scheme from the late 80s that decimated this country's council housing stock.
Just wondered what other people thought about it?

No one is entitled to anything, not housing
or food or a job. Sooner that is understood, the better we all will be.

Oh good. That means that you are not entitled to your extra houses then and we can just take it off you, the way you take rent off us.

Go and read Adam Smith’s writings and try to understand the long words about how essential equality and fairness is.

I agree its a dreadful idea.

No one is entitled to anything, not housing
or food or a job. Sooner that is understood, the better we all will be

Actually, some of us think that food, shelter and clothes are basic human rights.

I think someone pointed this out up thread. It makes financial sense to provide state housing for the poorest and keep this housing in state hands. Otherwise those on housing benefit end up in private rentals and state money is paying off landlords mortgages for them. Some people would never be able to buy, even if rents / sale prices were cheaper. We have a duty, as a civilised society, to provide the basics for those who are unable to provide for themselves.

It helps private landlords to have less council housing and housing association properties on the 'market'
he is just trying to get his grubby little hands on more of what's ours. They need us to have nothing so they come into power and take our services.

heck they even took our library and school!

Disagree. You have a horrible privileged attitude. Not surprising from a landlord who owns 10 properties.

I think a sensible thing would be to stop foreign investors buying up properties and leaving them empty.

* No one is entitled to anything, not housingor food or a job. Sooner that is understood, the better we all will be*

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If you really believe no one is entitled to anything, then you are not entitled to state protection of your property via police and courts.

I doubt you really believe that though.

Of course people are morally entitled to food and shelter. It is also in your interests to live in a country that protects your rights.

You sound like you are either being deliberately provocative, or you don't have much logic, because your position makes no sense pragmatically.

But the Tories were only too happy to welcome Russian property owners.

And the party was happy to take their donations.

Not at all, I’m being honest and seeing the full picture.

All these posts stating I’m privileged are comical, just last week I’ve paid over £11k in Stamp Duty Tax. Yes, tax - where does it go? Of course, it goes into the tax system which is used to fund essential services for everyone.

If you really think it’s a basic human right to be fed and housed, your view on life need to mature significantly.

Plenty of logic, it’s not logically to GIVE anyone anything for free.

If you want something for free than your not contributing to society or to the taxation system which is there to provide everyone services and structure, instead you are just feeding off others.

Such lies and deeply unfounded thought process, inheritance?

Just go and work hard, work 2 jobs or 3 or more, retrain, use the plethora of resources online to move into a field which pays more.

Relocate to a cheaper area or do any of the other things you can do to get onto the housing ladder.

This obtuse idea that the local HA must provide you with a nice 3/4 bed house and maintain it whilst you pay peppercorn rent is just obscene.

Are you ‘giving’ it to us or do we have a right to something based on the amount of work we do? What is your previous ownership based on, that you have the unassailable right to give?

Understand that we of Northern Europe will not accept the ancient Roman and imperial contract of some working ourselves into a grave for nothing while the rich cream off the results of our work. It has been tried, again and again. It has been rejected, again and again. Sometimes it has taken time, to claw back rights. Sometimes inequality has resulted in legal or actual fights. But it gets overturned one way or the other.

Your practical solutions make no sense and are simply not attainable any more. Work 2 or 3 jobs? Leaving aside why should we when landlords owning multiple properties need work none, how? What jobs are there out there now that allow you to work two or three? Most require 24/7 availability and full flexibility. None pay the cost of living for the levels of responsibility they require. There are only so many hours in a day fgs. Retrain? How, with the cost of retraining the way it is? How, with meaningful part-time retraining non-existent, do you retrain and work 2 - 3 jobs? Retraining implies you are older - so how do you perform these miracles and keep up family responsibilities? Why, when there are so few jobs available with such competition for them even after retraining? Why, when the cost of retraining cannot be recouped from the pay of the work afterwards?

And your claims that you alone pay enough tax to pay for local services, compared to a wide base of many tax payers in decent jobs is derisory, and can be demonstrated false in practice. Where are these services you provide?? They’ve all been shut because they’re unaffordable with only the selfishness and greed of the few to find them - the greed and selfishness which promotes tax evasion everywhere.

Fund, not find.

That was kind of my point. A lot of my family are in SE Asia where foreign nationals are allowed to buy 1 property only and it is linked to their passport. Where I live there are 3 office blocks that have been converted to new flats. Brilliant idea, but many of them are empty and owned by Russian/Chinese/Middle eastern investors. It is unacceptable.
The problems we have with council housing is that the councils are often really terrible landlords, not just because they have no money, but because they are hopeless at managing property.
Housing associations were a good idea but they need to be scrutinised and held to account, prosecuted and fined for poor management.

If you want something for free than your not contributing to society or to the taxation system which is there to provide everyone services and structure, instead you are just feeding off others.

So you think the disabled and those who have to give up work to care for the disabled should be left to beg on the street? Some people can't support themselves, through no fault of their own, and as a civilised society we should provide them with housing, food and clothing.

People have secure and affordable housing are in a better position to improve their prospects. Trying to get out of a poverty hole is horrific.

People don't choose to be disabled either.

Who is talking about giving things for free? Housing should be affordable and individuals should not be allowed to profit from housing others.

Not everyone has the means or resources to do that or they all would do it. There are minimum wage jobs that need doing. Who is going to care for your elderly relatives for peanuts if they all fuck off to better paid jobs?

Wow. You better hope you don't get sick or have an accident.

You are privileged. If you are earning enough to pay that much tax you are privileged. I highly doubt you're struggling to put food on the table.

Well that’s where private medical comes in. Like everything, you have to pay. I pay twice? NHS and private. Is that fair?

Valid point, though the proportion of care home workers is a very small selection of those people who seek assistance with housing etc.

The help yourself mentality is lacking.