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Narcissistic?

38 replies

Mummybear1993 · 01/05/2022 08:46

Hi,
I don't know where to start really. Just last night got to me and I am still feeling.
I had a great day with my girls friends - rarely get any time to myself. Non of us were drinking, we just had a walk and chat and some fun. My partner was there with the kids, but left me to it to have some social time.
We then returned home to host a buffet and prepare for that for 12 people.
We got chatting at the buffet and someone asked me about my job. I said I am now having to travel about once a month (I had mentioned this to my fiancé that I will travel once in May, once in June, once in July and once in September.) I didn't think anything of it until....
My partner and I were alone and he said, it would be nice for you to tell me things. I said like what? He said like you travelling away with work every month. I said I told you that. He said, well I didn't think you would be travelling every month. I said well I am for the next five months, except for august. He said well you never said that at the party, you said every month. I said well, I never got to finish my sentence as someone asked me a question. He said that he felt he was being kept out of the loop.
He then said I never mentioned a medical appointment last week. I said I did and we had a two way conversation about it. I could even tell him where we were when we had the conversation. However, he was so wrapped up and consumed in his emails on our day out when we had the conversation, he probably won't remember and he often doesn't remember our conversations or the childrens. He remembers everything for work though but not enough headspace for us at home. I find that if I don't text him with the info, he makes out I am lying and didn't tell him. He doesn't consider that he forgot.
Instead he said that as always I am always right and I always know where the conversation was and what was said etc etc. he shouted at me. Interesting that this was when everyone else had gone home and so had his kids, it was just me and my kids at home.
He was then all smiles when his son came home with his girlfriend, like nothing had happened.
I feel from his outburst that he is annoyed and maybe a little paranoid that I will be travelling with work. He travels with work once a month too and I often don't hear from him when he is away. Yet that's ok, but seems different for me.
Just to point out that he also cheated on me for almost a year with a work colleague from 2019 until 2020 when I caught them out.
Maybe he thinks I will cheat on him.
He just gets so angry with me. And nit picks on my words.
Feel like I have to think very carefully about how I word and say things. And should you ever disagree with him, you are wrong.
E.g. my son wants a PC and not a laptop. My fella got so annoyed with him because he wouldn't shift on his decision.
I am reading into something that isn't there?
Is he overreacting or am I?
Sometimes not sure what's normal any more....

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Mummybear1993 · 01/05/2022 11:32

Fireflygal · 01/05/2022 09:19

Op, do you hope if you have a rationale for his behaviour then you will be able to change him?

How long have you been together? Why didn't he leave after the affair?

If he is narcisstic then the pattern in relationships is

Idealise - where you feel you are soulmates, your ideas align and you seem perfect for each other. Can last for sometime, especially if not committed through children or finances. Slowly the balance changes though and you realise that it's always their agenda and needs.

Devalue - often happens when you start to assert needs, in this stage you can't do anything right and they appear angry with you all the time. You may also be smeared to friends or family, without your knowledge, so that they are seen as the victim. Whilst you are being criticised they can be charming go others.

Discard - usually as a result of an affair, often highly deceptive and you may not be aware of the affair until they have left.

Being around narcisstic people is draining, you avoid being authentic and walk on eggshells. My dc come back from their Dads feeling flat. Hard to describe but they seem low energy and almost dazed. They usually bounce back after being home for a while.

It does feel a lot like this. Although he never bad mouths me to anyone.
He does behave so nicely at work and with others though. He is so patient and kind. At home he has no patience for any of us.
He is like two different people.
He can be anti social with those he does not want to speak with but smarmy with those he does.
He bears grudges and treats people as they have treated him.
He remembers all the bad things about people and my children. Rarely praises them for the good.
Yet if we criticise him he won't speak to us for days....

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Fireflygal · 01/05/2022 11:33

Please,please say your deposit is protected? Deed of trust or on the deeds?

Mummumtum · 01/05/2022 11:36

You say partner not husband? So your parents have put money in a house that he solely owns with no legal protection?

Fireflygal · 01/05/2022 11:41

Although he never bad mouths me to anyone

I never thought Ex did until much, much later. What do you think he told the affair partner about you?

A person with a personality disorder has usually experienced childhood abuse and there also appears to be a genetic factor. Ex's mother was abusive (but outwardly the image was perfect) she had very unstable moods, going into rages and her behaviour is textbook NPD however at the time I was clueless about personality disorders so didn't understand at all. If I could go back in time with the knowledge now I would have run fast.

Op, you are driven to spy on him. Is this really a relationship that will get better?

SunshineLollipopsAndRainbows · 01/05/2022 11:45

So sorry for what I’m reading OP. Not sure about narcissism but I would say you are being emotionally & sometimes verbally abused. You deserve better from a partner

tomatoandherbs · 01/05/2022 11:48

How long have you been with him? Does he live with you?

tomatoandherbs · 01/05/2022 11:50

who will care for your children when you go away with work?

tomatoandherbs · 01/05/2022 11:51

He remembers all the bad things about people and my children. Rarely praises them for the good.
Yet if we criticise him he won't speak to us for days....

and you allow this man near your children… why?

MissMaple82 · 01/05/2022 12:00

That doesn't make him a narcissist no!Clearly you're not happy in the relationship though.

knittingaddict · 01/05/2022 12:09

Mummumtum · 01/05/2022 11:36

You say partner not husband? So your parents have put money in a house that he solely owns with no legal protection?

I know!

Why on earth?

IncompleteSenten · 01/05/2022 15:03

Please tell me the money your parents loaned you is protected? That you have it all legally sorted?

pompomseverywhere · 01/05/2022 15:03

I think you need to see a solicitor ASAP to get legal and financial advice.

Mummybear1993 · 02/05/2022 07:40

I think I just need to put on my big girl pants and leave and face into the financial situation with my parents.
I have just got to a point where I hate him. I know hate is a strong word but I do.
I think I had felt stronger in 2020 and he wasn't losing his dad who passed away soon after I would have left. I would have told his parents everything but I didn't because I care about other people involved. Not that he gave a damn.
I actually think he is cheating again.
Just this morning I was playing (masturbating) in bed and he was just laid there next to me... knew what I was doing but did thirst join in or play with himself. He then said I thought you would have offered for me to play with you. To which I replied I thought it would just be instinctive rather than an invite!?! He then had a go at me and said oh right then that's another thing I do wrong!!

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