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Babies not allowed in bars/pubs?

175 replies

ChampagneLassie · 01/05/2022 01:19

Out with newborn in pram this afternoon and tried to go for a drink at a bar with a big outdoor terrace. Was denied entry as, under 18s not allowed. The man was apologetic but adamant that this applied to sleeping babies in prams. It felt particularly ridicouks as this was bar was right on high street with tables basically lining pavement.
I can understand children not allowed but would that really extend to babies in prams? Are council licensing that officus?

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LuckySantangelo35 · 01/05/2022 08:29

Though completely agree that if baby is not asleep and crying and will not settle after literally a minute you leave. but that applies to a cafe or restaurant as well, not fair on other patrons to endure that whether it’s a beer in their hand or a cup of coffee or a burger or whatever

oakleaffy · 01/05/2022 08:29

Kids in Bars/pubs are a complete pain a lot of the time, mainly as their parents let them run riot.
Over 18’s is a great idea.

AlternativePerspective · 01/05/2022 08:30

Nothing worse than other people’s children screaming/running around when you’re trying to have a quiet drink without kids.

Nothing wrong with pubs who do allow kids in. But equally there’s nothing wrong with pubs which don’t.

LampLighter414 · 01/05/2022 08:31

It's a great rule IMO. Plenty of other family focused pubs and bars around so look for one of those.

KimWexlersPonyTail · 01/05/2022 08:31

The problem is if they allowed one pram that would set a precedent and i don't want to sit in a pub surrounded by prams. Not the vibe i am looking for down the pub. Many cafes noa have outdoor seating and licensed.

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 01/05/2022 08:35

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It's much more 1950s to assume that women are not allowed any child-free spaces.

PaperTyger · 01/05/2022 08:35

Op I was amazed at this down in Cornwall actually.
Sleeping 3 months old and they either wanted us to sit in a horrid " family" room, the room that wasn't cosy,had no fire...no effort... totally different to the rest of the pub or wouldn't allow us anywhere else.

Around where I live no one gave it a second thought.

I absolutely love pubs but can't understand why we don't move towards more of a continental tapas/ drinks culture.
I've never in my life had any issues with children in pubs at all.

ImInStealthMode · 01/05/2022 08:36

YABU. A pub near us have under 18s areas both inside and out. We love it and choose that pub often, because we don't want to be surrounded by a) small noisy kids or b) large noisy kids.

ChocolateHippo · 01/05/2022 08:37

LuckySantangelo35 · 01/05/2022 08:29

Though completely agree that if baby is not asleep and crying and will not settle after literally a minute you leave. but that applies to a cafe or restaurant as well, not fair on other patrons to endure that whether it’s a beer in their hand or a cup of coffee or a burger or whatever

I agree. No matter where you are (pub/bar/cafe), if your child is screaming or being a pain, it's not fair on the other customers not to take them out.

But there are enough places that allow children (even some that don't look particularly 'child-friendly') that I can't imagine being particularly put out if told I couldn't take my DC in somewhere. I'd just go somewhere else.

Viviennemary · 01/05/2022 08:40

Its a good rule for pubs that don't cater for children. Plenty of pubs do with children's menus play areas and so on. I think if there is such a rule it needs to be applied to the letter otherwise there isn't any point.

PurpleFlower1983 · 01/05/2022 08:42

I’ve never come across this before so you may have been unlucky with your bar choice.

Luredbyapomegranate · 01/05/2022 08:42

It’s a reasonable general rule to have. It might be the staff apply it with different levels of strictness in the daytime, so you could always try again, or there is probably another pub around that doesn’t have it.

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Whenthegoatcomesin · 01/05/2022 08:45

It’s a good rule. I took my baby into a Wetherspoon’s and when I got back from the loo, she was totally wasted and on her second karaoke song.

newnamethanks · 01/05/2022 08:46

Get used to it OP. Assume that most other people don't want other people's children in their space and you'll be fine.

ememem84 · 01/05/2022 08:46

PurrBox · 01/05/2022 07:34

Women were legally banned from many pubs until 1982 because they ruin the atmosphere.

Were they? I never knew that! But then I was born in ‘84 so….

opensunflower · 01/05/2022 08:47

Most places are child friendly, dont
Let this put you off going out and do enjoy the pub whilst baby sleeps in a pram

SmugOldBag · 01/05/2022 08:53

When we got our dog I had visions of idyllic afternoons sipping wine in a pub next to a roaring fire while she slumbered at our feet. Where I live now so many places don't allow them indoors. Presumably because they make money from diners and families. That's fine. Their prerogative and I accept their decision for whatever reason they've made it. Same with kids really. Find another option.

Confusion101 · 01/05/2022 08:55

🖕To all the people saying "find a cafe and drink tea". Yes it's good and important to have child free venues! Doesn't mean they all have to be. Plenty of establishments around for there to be a nice mix of both!
OP good to know for the future not every place allows kids, just means a stroll and a drink (which you are perfectly entitled to!) might need a little planning before hand to figure out where will let you in!

Rachie1973 · 01/05/2022 08:59

As a parent of many and granny of even more I’m a big believer in choice.

I love being able to go to an over 18 venue and not have kids, mine or other peoples around me.

Equally, sometimes I choose to visit family friendly places and take the children.

There is plenty of scope for everyone.

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Babyvenusplant · 01/05/2022 09:11

Waxonwaxoff0 · 01/05/2022 08:22

Babies in prams tend to cry though and disturb others.

More so than rowdy drunk people?

Waxonwaxoff0 · 01/05/2022 09:13

Babyvenusplant · 01/05/2022 09:11

More so than rowdy drunk people?

Rowdy drunk people get kicked out!

Hardbackwriter · 01/05/2022 09:14

newnamethanks · 01/05/2022 08:46

Get used to it OP. Assume that most other people don't want other people's children in their space and you'll be fine.

Or just find another pub, one of the many, many pubs where children are welcome?