To take water away from puppy at night?

[keratoms]

We're picking up a chihuahua puppy in a few days. We are going to crate train so have got her a crate for downstairs and a crate for the bedroom. The downstairs crate has plenty of room for her bed and a water bowl but not much else.

The bedroom crate due to the size of the bed only has enough room for her bed and blanket. Is that okay or do we need to make space for water? Never had a puppy before so not sure of the correct way to do this. Getting different info on Google.

Have attached the picture of nighttime crate.

Thank you.

Oh yeah get Vet Bed it's amazing and very indestructible.

Youve had some excellent advice here OP
and whilst it's shocking you have purchased a pet without researching it first , im thankful youve thought to ask on here at least

vet bed is a thick absorbant fleece type bedding which is used to line kennels and usually is tough enough not to be eaten by the pet
be careful lining underneath with puppy pads or news paper- as these can be shredded ( but generally not dangerous just make a mess)
you cannot leave toys in with a young puppy- theyre inclined to eat them( and then thats you going a trip to the vets)
yes , water dishes can be fixed to the side of the crate. Any bowls left on the floor will be immediately spilled.

as youve been sold a puppy, with presumably, a breeder who hasnt home checked you- please make sure that you get a puppy check and vaccinations right away. It's frightening the amount of sick puppies vets treat.

enrol in a puppy class

as with children, silence is suspicious!

Do you leave the door open? I understand about safe spaces but that's only true if you give the dog the option to leave. If the dog is locked in, it's hardly their choice.

Don’t people confine young puppies to a small
space? I see a crate as an extension of this, especially if your house is set up so that it’s hard to confine a dog to one place. They don’t have any choice in that but it’s for their own safety. My puppy has free reign of the entire house when I’m home but when left alone, only has access to a much smaller area.

@keratoms

If you decide against a crate or want another option, I highly recommend a large playpen. You can buy ones that can also be used to section off parts of the room and can add or remove pieces to make it bigger or smaller.

Dogs can jump over the playpen but you can get reasonably high ones and you’ve got a small breed so it shouldn’t be a big risk.

That bed looks a bit big for the crate.

Chi's like burrowing, even when pups and it could be a bit heavy for it and suffocate.

We had a crate but left the door open, had it in the bedroom, they do cry to be picked up and do need constant wees, after a while, we just covered the bedroom floor with puppy pads, the entire floor 😂

In six months I guarantee you'll be sharing a bed with her.
Adorable.

And give her water, we left small amounts of food out and teddies for company.

This. Ours has always had access to water 24/7.

For those asking if the OP should be getting a dog as she doesn't know much about looking after one - surely we're all in that situation when we get our first dog?

does my dog need water for an 8 hour stretch aka 1/3 of its day is a pretty bad question IMO

Why in the world would you assume I hadn't researched it? Did you not see that I was getting conflicting advice online hence why I asked on here?

@XelaM agreed. Odd how we all managed to transport or dogs or visit vets before caging was a thing. There’s a big difference between having a crate with an always open door as a safe space, and actually keeping a dog in one.
It seems particularly cruel in the case of a puppy overnight in a new home. ‘Hey you’ve just left all your siblings for the first time let me shut you in here for 8 hours alone’.

@keratoms Tbh, whether your dog needs access to water is a pretty basic welfare requirement, not something you should still need to be researching after you’ve committed to buying it. Researching at this point should be investigating puppy classes, recommendations for the best tiny collars or treats etc. Not whether it needs to drink.

I’ve had U.K. trainers tell me my pup doesn’t need access to water at night and to withhold before bed. I chose not to do this and still managed to toilet train effectively but it’s actually not black and white.

People are being really hard on the OP here. She clearly wants to do the right thing hence asking for help. It's not fair to judge her.
OP I wouldn't over research this but just simply advise that all animals including humans need to have access to water at all times. If this results in nighttime peeing so be it. Use puppy pads.

My carpets are ruined but I'd rather that than a thirsty dog.... you'll figure it out over time.

Jumped to the end. Leave puppy in downstairs crate. You dont want your puppy in your bedroom, whether a Chihuahua or a Leonburg. It will cry for attention, love, freedom....
Crates stay in one place

I totally agree with this. Dog related chat on MN can be so unbelievably judgemental and unpleasant.
OP is asking questions and taking on board the advice. Crate training is considered very normal and appropriate these days.

I got my first dog a year ago, and whilst I was a complete novice at the time, I can assure you that she and I have had a lovely and very responsible journey together, as I navigate my way through dog ownership.

The way that people respond to these questions could really put someone off asking for advice.

People are being really hard on the OP here. She clearly wants to do the right thing hence asking for help. It's not fair to judge her.

Agreed. There is plenty of advice online that suggests taking away water at night, which clearly didn’t sit right with the OP so she’s asked for advice here. People piling on to say she hasn’t researched and has probably purchased from an irresponsible breeder etc, all because she asked a question to clarify something she’s read in multiple places online, are being really harsh and unfair.

OP, FWIW I did an unbelievable amount of research before getting my puppy and there were so many little practical details that I just couldn’t get my head around until he actually arrived and we found out what worked best through trial and error. It’ll be the same for you, you’ll soon get to know what the pup likes and needs. I’m sure if I’d posted some of my questions here when my puppy first arrived I’d have been slated too and told I was unfit to own a puppy. But my puppy is now almost an adult dog and he couldn’t be happier or healthier.

We had one of those clip-on water bowls in the crate and never denied him access to water and it didn’t affect his toilet training at all. We did away with the crate after a few months and he now has water bowls in a couple of places around the house so that he can access them any time.

I spent a fortune on beds of various shapes and sizes before figuring out that my dog prefers to sleep stretched out and is much happier with a blanket on the floor than with a cosy circle bed. I second the recommendation for vetbed and a blanket in the crate, save the squishy bed for later on.

Good luck, your life will never be the same again!

Mine has just been let out of the crate overnight, he’s nearly 9 months. I can’t drag him out in the morning! It’s open throughout the day, he chooses to go in for naps during the day.

I'd get that bed out of there it looks ridiculously large.

And yes your dog needs access to water..

It really really is.

Why people have to imprison their dogs is beyond me. I’ve had dogs all my life, no crates and no damages to my homes.

As for the water - dogs should have access to fresh water at all times.

How big is the dog?

We have one of these in the en suite - it genuinely doesn’t spill anywhere and both of ours use it regularly through the night. They are great! You could easily have one on carpet with no fear of it getting wet.
www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07P6YW9JQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_S8PXAGDXS0QVS1JT4K20

Dogs must have access to water 24/7. They use drinking to cool themselves down and regulate body temperature

That's so mean! This is a tiny baby that has been taken away from its mum and siblings and brought to a strange place only to be imprisoned in a cage on its own far from any company. A dog is not a robot. If it cries for attention, it needs to be given attention, especially when it's a newborn puppy.

Don't be ridiculous.

This is an animal, probably about eight weeks old, that has just been removed from everything that makes it feel secure. It's probably fearful and overwhelmed.

Any creature, whether human or animal, that is crying for attention, love or freedom needs to be attended to.

Did I say it didnt need attending to ?
I said it needs one crate, in a fixed place. Not in the bedroom.