Chicken pox - stay in?

fffffeeeedddduupp · 2022-04-17T09:43:49+00:00

Quick question when my dd's were young we were advised to keep them at home if they have chicken pox until crusted over. We are going to an Easter event today and dd is wanting to bring dgc who has chicken pox. She says it's just school they stay home from nowadays so can still go out other than school. Who's right?

GoodSoup · 17/04/2022 10:45

Erm no you can’t take a child somewhere with active chicken pox. You have to wait til the spots have scabbed over.

Duracellbunnywannabe · 17/04/2022 10:45

You are.

I would take a child with chicken pox outside some where they wouldn’t get close to people eg beach when it’s not a hot day or for a woodland walk but certainly not to an Easter event.

bellsbuss · 17/04/2022 10:46

It's very dangerous to pregnant ladies so I wouldn't take them out.

Mirrorball2022 · 17/04/2022 10:49

No you stay home until the spots have scabbed over. It’s always been the same. Since covid isolation changed some seem to be applying the same daft logic to other really infectious Illnesses. Stop spreading anything like that and just stay home for a few days.
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dementedpixie · 17/04/2022 10:51

They stay home until the spots have scabbed over. It is airborne and contagious until scabbed. Dangerous for pregnant women and immunocompromised people

freedomhereicome · 17/04/2022 10:53

Stay at home!

I nearly died when I caught it as an adult

SantaHat · 17/04/2022 10:55

FFS what do people not understand about not passing on contagious illnesses that can do serious damage to people?

You are definitely right and your DD is an arse through either stupidity or utter selfishness

Popcornriver · 17/04/2022 11:02

Ours stayed home but I can see why someone might choose to take a small child to an isolated place really early in the morning for a bit of fresh air when nobody is around. Provided they really do keep away from others. It would be madness to take them to an organised activity full of other people when it's so contagious though.

JurasicPerks · 17/04/2022 11:07

I've just read the NHS page. It says stay off nursery/school/work.

But further down it says to stay away from newborns, pregnant women, immunocompromised people. So I'd guess that also rules out busy Easter events, as you have no idea who else will be there.

2pinkginsplease · 17/04/2022 11:10

You are right, definitely stay at home away from other who may get seriously ill with chicken pox.

Guidance is stay home until crusted over.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 17/04/2022 11:11

Your are right. You stay in until the last one has crusted over iirc.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 17/04/2022 11:11

Why don't we have a CP vaccine if it's so dangerous to pregnant women just like we do with Rubella?

AlexaShutUp · 17/04/2022 11:12

Of course you should stay at home. Chicken pox can be serious, it would be utterly irresponsible to spread it around.

MJ123 · 17/04/2022 11:13

Honestly, why have people suddenly gotten so selfish?

You're in the right OP, why would you knowingly take a child with an active virus that can be very nasty to those with other conditions or who are pregnant to what sounds like a party?! What if there's a female relative there in her first trimester who hasn't told anyone yet? Or what if there's an elderly relative with an autoimmune condition?

I really hope our care for others returns soon

somethingischasingme · 17/04/2022 11:14

My daughter was hospitalised for 4 days with chicken pox when her friends sister went back to school before fully crusted. One of the other mums was also hospitalised and the mum of the infectious child has never forgiven herself.

freedomhereicome · 17/04/2022 11:18

@MrsPelligrinoPetrichor

Why don't we have a CP vaccine if it's so dangerous to pregnant women just like we do with Rubella?

Because the ones who don't immunise (and you know there will be anti vaxxers) are then more likely to catch shingles as an adult which is more dangerous

www.nhs.uk/conditions/vaccinations/chickenpox-vaccine-questions-answers/

Lime37 · 17/04/2022 11:20

You can’t take a child out with chicken pox that’s awful. Especially to people like me who is pregnant and never had it

gonnascreamsoon · 17/04/2022 11:21

@fffffeeeedddduupp

STAY at HOME until ALL spots have scabbed over, unless you'd be happy accidentally infecting someone who's clinically vulnerable like the elderly or pregnant !

Varicella, the primary infection with varicella-zoster virus (VZV; human herpesvirus 3), in pregnancy may cause maternal mortality or serious morbidity. It may also cause fetal varicella syndrome (FVS) and varicella infection of the newborn, which includes congenital varicella syndrome (CVS) and neonatal varicella.

GoodSoup · 17/04/2022 11:21

You can’t catch shingles. Shingles develops from the dormant virus from having had chicken pox.

Poppins2016 · 17/04/2022 11:24

OP, you're correct.

The NHS website is a little unclear, however, as it only mentions 'school, nursery or work' rather than specifying to stay clear of public places altogether, which I think badly lets the messaging down... so I can see where your daughter is coming from in her interpretation: You'll need to stay away from school, nursery or work until all the spots have formed a scab. This is usually 5 days after the spots appeared.

The NHS website does say: ^do not go near newborn babies, people who are pregnant and people with a weakened immune system, as chickenpox can be dangerous for them" and this would include taking precautions such as not going shopping or to public events (it's just a shame the NHS isn't quite as specific as they should be, to ensure that people understand)...

Smerk · 17/04/2022 11:26

My kids have both been vaxxed against it. In the US it's part of the MMR (MMRV) but over here you have to get it done privately.

My mum is immunocompromised. Please don't take your GC put with CP.

Itsbackagain · 17/04/2022 11:27

Does.noone have any common sense nowadays? Of course you don't take them out.

JudgeRindersMinder · 17/04/2022 11:30

@MrsPelligrinoPetrichor

Why don't we have a CP vaccine if it's so dangerous to pregnant women just like we do with Rubella?

We do, it’s just not given routinely in the UK

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 17/04/2022 11:31

We do, it’s just not given routinely in the UK

But why not? I know you can have it done privately but why isn't done as standard like in the US?

FloraPostePosts · 17/04/2022 11:36

@Poppins2016

OP, you're correct.

The NHS website is a little unclear, however, as it only mentions 'school, nursery or work' rather than specifying to stay clear of public places altogether, which I think badly lets the messaging down... so I can see where your daughter is coming from in her interpretation: You'll need to stay away from school, nursery or work until all the spots have formed a scab. This is usually 5 days after the spots appeared.

The NHS website does say: ^do not go near newborn babies, people who are pregnant and people with a weakened immune system, as chickenpox can be dangerous for them" and this would include taking precautions such as not going shopping or to public events (it's just a shame the NHS isn't quite as specific as they should be, to ensure that people understand)...

It used to be the case that school, nursery or work were the most important things people did, the things they forced themselves out of bed for even if they were ill. Most people wouldn’t have thought of having a jolly trip as compulsory in same way, so if you were ill enough to be off school, work or nursery, you would of course be staying at home anyway, because you were too ill to be out.

Nowadays fun stuff is seen as more important and shouldn’t be missed for anything, even at the risk of making other people ill. Society has become much more self centred.