AIBU to think a heart patient, diabetic won't survive covid

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Can a heart patient who has diabetes survive covid? (Vaccinated)

Of course.

Depends on what you mean by “heart patient”. If they’ve had a transplant and are immunosuppressed then there’s still a moderate risk even after vaccination. If not then the mortality rate is pretty low with vaccination and they would almost certainly survive.

Yes.
I am 48, diabetic. I have heart disease and lung disease. My liver function and kidney function are both impaired, I have high blood pressure that cannot be controlled through meds or at least they haven't helped so far! and I have autoimmune problems plus a whole host of other things. I take so many pills I rattle. 🤣. People in my situation have an average life span of ten years post diagnosis.

I got covid at the end of march. I'm fully vaccinated.
I'm still here and testing negative now

My FIL is 83, he has diabetes, has had 2 heart attacks and is awaiting a pacemaker. He had covid a few weeks ago. He had cough and cold symptoms but was not seriously unwell, he is fine now

Covid+diagnosis does not automatically mean a death sentence.

My nana in her 80s survived Covid without a symptom, she has heart problems, diabetes and a whole host of other things wrong with her. The only picked it up because of regular testing in her care home.

I know someone age 87 who sounds similar. At least, I know he's on a pile of daily medications including heart pills. Tested +SARS-CoV-2 three weeks ago, almost zero symptoms & tested negative 5 days later. In my mind he didn't have Covid, he just tested positive for the virus briefly.

We were talking about his future appt to get 4th jab (2nd booster) today.

There are no guarantees of anything in life.

But people seem to have mentally exaggerated their covid risks across the board. Even the most vulnerable in wave 1 (over 80s with comorbidity) had a FR of 15-20%. So that's the very worst affected, prior to vaccines.

That's obviously not nothing, but equally many, many more of the most vulnerable prior to vaccines survived than died.

So to say with any degree of certainty that a vaccinated individual 'won't' survive it at this stage doesn't strike me as very accurate.

Survival is most likely

Yes, even when looking at the very vulnerable, most will not require hospital admission if vaccinated. Those with very wonky immune systems (which means vaccination might not work) are eligible for antibody or antiviral treatment.

But yes, it's also a worry because those with certain comorbidities are considerably more likely to get moderate or severe disease.

If possible, contact your consultant, and/or consider ringing 119 for advice. They may well want you to monitor yourself at home (with oximetry if you have the gadget), so if there are any concerning signs you can be promptly re-assessed and given new advice.

If over 50, they can ask to join the PANORAMIC trial, which would give a 50/50 chance of antiviral

YABU to make any such assumption. If there are conditions that might make Covid more dangerous then of course that person would be wise to take as many precautions as are reasonably possible not to catch it. But plenty of frail, ill people have got over Covid, just as many apparently healthy and robust people haven't.

Totally depends. Having diabetes and a heart condition doesn't necessarily mean you will have covid severely particularly if fully vaccinated. I am a type 1 diabetic and have had covid totally asymptomatically (and that was pre vaccine). Plenty of people with multiple conditions have survived covid by now. What it does mean that if you catch covid severely then your other conditions could kick in and complicate things but even then I doubt its a definite death sentence.

I spent two years terrified and absolutely convinced that if I got it I'd drop dead. In a way, I'm glad I got it. It's removed the fear

Of course they can, and most do. I know an overweight type 1 diabetic with additional heart problems who had no problem with covid, and a member of my own family who had just finished a round of chemo had no more than a mild sore throat with covid.

My husband survived omicron no problem! Confenital heart disease and type 2 diabetes. Double vaxxed though. His heart consultant and gp tokd him to be very careful before vax because they said ending up in a coffin in the first abd second wave was very real.

Friend (female) had boyfriend with congenital heart condition. Friend talked GP into giving friend Covid vacc early because he was so vulnerable & she was in a bubble with him. Do we all remember bubbles?

Turns out he was fairly ill (entirely at home, no hospital need) with Covid in April 2020. Recovered fine in spite of heart risk, and long before vaccines...