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To think 30 different plant based foods is hard to achieve?

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BigYellowTaxiT · 16/04/2022 18:13

I am trying to overhaul my diet and generally create a healthier lifestyle for myself. I read that dieticians now recommend you should eat 30 portions of different plant based foods a week.

Does anyone actually do this? How do you achieve it? What are your weekly menus? Anyone got any tips?

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whenwilliwillibefamous · 16/04/2022 18:24

First question - source link please?
This might be a mild misapprehension.

Off the top of my head.... Do I eat at least 30 things which come from plants in a week? Probably yes actually

  1. Soya milk
Raisins
  1. Oats
Pecan nuts
  1. Brazil nuts
Almonds
  1. Dried apricots
Blueberries Strawberries 10. Bananas Satsumas Grapes Lettuce Tomatoes 15. Onions Celery Carrot Cucumber Chickpeas 20. Bread/pasta Olives Peanuts Rice Baked beans 25. Mushrooms Potatoes Sweetcorn Peas Broccoli 30. Cauliflower

So either way it shouldn't be super difficult.

RenegadeKeeblerElf · 16/04/2022 18:25

Does that mean food based on 30 different plants? Or just 30 different foods that happen to be plant based? I assume the former.

If so, then in a typical week I might eat these foods:

Wheat
Oats
Rice
Potatoes
Onions
Tomatoes
Cucumber
Spinach
Peppers
Aubergine
Mushrooms
Cucumber
Green beans
Broccoli
Sweetcorn
Squash
Carrots
Peas
Apples
Oranges
Bananas
Melon
Strawberries
Beans (the type in baked beans!)
Chickpeas
Soya
Sunflowers (oil/spread)
Garlic
Chili
Basil
Oregano

That's 30+, but I suspect I'm pushing the definition somewhat. It's definitely difficult, even as a vegetarian who is following a diet which encourages plenty of fruit and veg!

Thatswhyimacat · 16/04/2022 18:32

Typical day might be:

Breakfast: porridge with raspberries
Lunch: homemade tomato and lentil soup
Dinner: sausage and Mediterranean vegetable bake
Snacks: fruit

Gives:
Oats
Raspberries
Tomato
Onion
Lentil
Red pepper
Courgette
Artichoke
Olive
Red onion
Chickpeas
Apple
Tangerine
Banana
Plus spices/herbs

So 14 for the day.

InMySpareTime · 16/04/2022 18:36

Remember that plant-based foods are not just greens, it's carbs, herbs, nuts and seeds too.
Rice
Pasta
Bread (wheat, oats, rye, barley etc in a multi seed loaf)
Potatoes
Sesame seeds
Poppy seeds
Peanuts
Cashews
Almonds
Parsley
Basil
Coriander
Mustard
Pepper

That's about halfway before even getting to the obvious meal veg:

Onions
Garlic
Peppers
Mushrooms
Broccoli
Cauliflower
Courgette
Tomato
Carrot
Parsnip
Peas
Sweetcorn
Kidney beans
Chickpeas
Lettuce
Rocket
Watercress
Spinach

That's 30 fairly standard plant-based foods before we even take fruit into account.

Apples
Pears
Oranges
Plums
Strawberries
Peaches
Bananas
Pineapple

It's not actually that difficult.

OfstedOffred · 16/04/2022 18:42

It's harder if it's supposed to be a portion of each (the amount of onion in a sauce may not count).

Even so - 7 days a week, 3 meals a day is 21 meals. It's less than two plant based items per meal, and most meals include a carb plus a fruit/veg or salad item

hepaticanobilis · 16/04/2022 18:42

One of the problems I would have living alone is that I can't buy so many different things each week because they wouldn't get used up. If I buy grapes or blueberries, or carrots and hummus, I'm going to be eating them for 2-3 days at least.

AlannaOfTrebond · 16/04/2022 18:50

I actually wrote down what I was eating last week to see if I did make it anywhere near 30 and was pleasantly surprised. The guidelines say that it doesn't have to be a whole portion sized like 5 a day, but to count herbs as 1/4 of a point as they are usually in very small sizes.

I found that the first couple of days I got loads and then added fewer and fewer throughout the week as I was eating up what was in the fridge so had already counted most things. Mixed frozen berries and sprinkling nuts and seeds on things helped though.

Blackberries
Raspberries
Blueberries
Redcurrants
Banana
Tomato
Coriander
Avocado
Red chilli
Red pepper
Parsley
Rocket
Oats
Strawberries
potatoes
Mango
Radish
Iceberg lettuce
Yellow pepper
Olives
Cucumber
Cos lettuce
Red onion
Carrot
Peanut
Lemon juice
Wholemeal flour
Red lentils
Apple
Shallot
Sweet potato
Barley flakes
Sultanas
Dates
Almonds
Hazelnuts
Broccoli
Cinnamon
Swede
Green beans
Oregano
Lime
Mustard seeds

ConfusedByDesign · 16/04/2022 18:51

This is interesting
In a typical week I’d have
Oats
Wheat
Blueberries
Strawberries
Peanuts
Almonds
Apple
Orange
Lemon
Onions
Garlic
Ginger
Courgette
Carrots
Potatoes
Spinach
Mushrooms
Tomatoes
Lettuce
Chick peas
Kidney beans
Lentils
Cabbage
Greens
Peas
Sweetcorn
Rice
Spring onions
Coriander
Parsley

Not everything is a full portion but it probably is around 30

Justkeeppedaling · 16/04/2022 18:55

Im not vegetarian but this week I have had
Leeks
Spinach
Courgette
Tomato
Almonds
Soy milk
Green beans
Broccoli
Raisins
Strawberries
Blue berries
Raspberries
Banana
Prunes
Oats
Raisins
Carrots
Olives
Chickpeas
Wheat
Oregano
Garlic
Chilli
Onion

And probably a lot more.

Onionpatch · 16/04/2022 18:57

I think id struggle with this at points of the year because I try and buy seasonal stuff (to a point) plus if I buy a cabbage or a big cauliflower it lasts me ages so I have it in quite a few dishes rather than having loads of different things. Or is that not what they mean.

VerbenaGirl · 16/04/2022 18:59

That’s pretty much the ‘five a day’ they’ve been saying for ages now, isn’t it?

BigYellowTaxiT · 16/04/2022 18:59

I’ve read it in a few places. The most recent was Women’s Health magazine. Apparently white potatoes don’t count as they have very high starch levels but sweet potatoes do.

You get 1 point per type of plant based food and herbs/spices get 0.25 points.

I think I am thinking it will be hard as I live alone and buying 30 different things is a bit overwhelming and I don’t want to waste food. I also don’t really eat breakfast so really only have 2 meals a day. You all listing yours out actually makes it seem a bit more doable than I was thinking though.

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Crimesean · 16/04/2022 19:00

That advice came from a study on healthy gut flora, which showed that people who eat 30+ different plants each week have a healthier metabolism than those who don't. Spices, herbs, grains etc all count as well as the more obvious fruit and veg.

BigYellowTaxiT · 16/04/2022 19:01

@VerbenaGirl

That’s pretty much the ‘five a day’ they’ve been saying for ages now, isn’t it?
No. The five a day is 5 portions….doesn’t specify different. I could eat an apple, a banana, broccoli, green beans and red cabbage everyday for a week but it wouldn’t hit the 30 different types.
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MythicalBiologicalFennel · 16/04/2022 19:03

I think it's quite doable OP. I heard Prof Tim Spector recommending this and reminding people that, for example, chocolate and bread are plant-based, too. Nothing wrong with having dark chocolate and good quality wholegrain bread. Also consider things like seeds, seaweed and nuts. I tend to agree with him that variety is the key rather than "must have 80 grams of broccoli or it doesn't count".

Palavah · 16/04/2022 19:05

Portions matter - so fresh herbs obly count as half, for example.

For those of you who live alone, you can batch cook and freeze portions of meals, or veg you've prepared. Tinned is fine for tomatoes, pulses. Dried oats, seeds, nuts, dried fruits, etc.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 16/04/2022 19:06

Nuts, seeds, herbs, wheatgerm, oats and oils are all plant based too

figtrees · 16/04/2022 19:06

Most of the comments here are just listing vegetables which isn't really helpful.

Casserole vegetable mix is cheap, you can get it from the freezer section in the supermarket. Throw it in the slow cooker with tinned tomatoes, stock and spices. Serve on its own or with rice, crusty bread, chicken breast.

Tinned mixed beans are cheap and make a great chilli. Either with chopped tomatoes and garlic and taco seasoning or chilli seasoning. You can add fried onions and peppers as well if you have them.

Ratatouille is delicious.

Aubergine bake is lovely.

You can buy a spiraliser and make zucchini noodles, they are honestly lovely either treated like Asian noodles fried in soy ginger garlic etc, used in place of pasta, I really like them with smashed avocado, garlic, parmesan and a little lemon juice.

30 portions a week isn't many.

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HairyMuttttt · 16/04/2022 19:08

My day is often but not automatically ..

Lunch: homemade soup (a mix of all sorts of veg, pulses, what ever I fancy really) with whole meal roll with butter

Supper: protein (fish or meat usually), carb, 1 veg or more if it’s a stir fry, curry or stew

Late eve: Greek yogurt, honey and a mix of frozen berries (raspberries, blackberries, cherries, blueberries) plus chunks of other frozen fruit from the freezer (banana, mango, pineapple)

I may have to count how many different plants I eat one week but I suspect it’s more then 30

BuanoKubiamVej · 16/04/2022 19:12

In the past week I have eaten (in some cases numerous times) in various different recipes:

Apples
Bananas
Carrots
Black beans
Kidney beans
Black eyed beans
Courgettes
Peppers
Broccoli
Cauliflower
Potatoes
Kale
Leeks
Butternut Squash
Onions
Mushrooms
Rice
Wheat
Tomatoes
Peas
Sweetcorn
Raisins
Dried pears
Tinned peaches
Coconut
Cashews
Pistachios
Aubergines
Cranberries
Limes
Red lentils
Cabbage
Soya in sausages

I think that's 34 and I haven't been particularly trying to reach any specific number just eating my normal mostly-veggie (occasionally pescatarian) diet.

lljkk · 16/04/2022 19:13

beans & whole grains count if it's the cancer hypothesis recommendation to achieve more diverse gut flora

tbh, that's pretty tenuous and theoretical

Great if you can, but don't we know most ppl struggle to just keep the sugar levels down? Start where you are. Sometimes I'm just thinking "What's the least unhealthy choice" of things I half fancy.

Bogofballs · 16/04/2022 19:14

It’s very easy unless you’re on a low income

BigYellowTaxiT · 16/04/2022 19:14

@HairyMuttttt

My day is often but not automatically ..

Lunch: homemade soup (a mix of all sorts of veg, pulses, what ever I fancy really) with whole meal roll with butter

Supper: protein (fish or meat usually), carb, 1 veg or more if it’s a stir fry, curry or stew

Late eve: Greek yogurt, honey and a mix of frozen berries (raspberries, blackberries, cherries, blueberries) plus chunks of other frozen fruit from the freezer (banana, mango, pineapple)

I may have to count how many different plants I eat one week but I suspect it’s more then 30

How do you defrost the frozen berries and other fruit etc? Or do you eat them frozen?
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HerbivorousRex · 16/04/2022 19:16

I love vegetables, fruit and legumes so I probably get 30ish different portions per week (although I’ve never actually counted and I’m definitely not strict about it).

It probably won’t be cheap because fresh fruit and vegetables can be expensive and so buying a wide range of them will add up (frozen and tinned are often better value but make sure that they don’t have added salt/sugar).
If you like cooking and are happy to try new things then fruit and vegetable boxes can be good (although I usually plan my meals after they arrive so I can make sure that everything gets used)

You also don’t want loads of food waste so try to plan a menu that will use the vegetables in different ways throughout the week (or accept that you might have fewer than 30 different plant based foods in one week but you’ll have different ones the following week).
It’s also difficult to do if you don’t have much time for planning/cooking or have fussy eaters in your house.

I tend to roast pans of different vegetables to keep in the fridge and use in different dishes (pasta sauce, on salads, as a side, added to things like omelette etc):

  • Sweet potato, tomatoes, red onion.
  • Courgette, peppers, tomatoes, red onions, aubergine.
  • Carrot, parsnip, beetroot.
I’ll also griddle things like:
  • Fennel, courgette and asparagus.

Soups are great for adding lots of vegetables. My favourites are:

  • Cauliflower, broccoli, leek, potato and cheddar.
  • Roasted tomato, pepper and red onion with red lentil, mint and chilli (topped with some feta and seeds)
  • Minestrone (celery, onions, carrots, borlotti beans, tomato purée, kale).
  • Borscht

Smoothies would also be good for getting extra fruit and vegetables.
I tend to bulk up meals with extra veg/lentils/beans (it makes it go further and adds some extra vitamins/protein).

I’ll make mixed fruit compote to add to yoghurt or porridge for breakfast.

  • Apple, pear, frozen berries.

I tend to have prepared fruit and veg in the fridge as a snack.

  • Cut up pineapple/mango
  • Apple/pear with peanut butter
  • Celery/carrot/pepper/cucumber with hummus or cream cheese.

For most meals I’ll add at least 2-3 vegetables as a side.

  • Cauliflower mash
  • Wilted spinach/kale/cabbage
  • Steamed peas, carrots and broccoli.

For example this week we’re having:

Monday:
Breakfast- Rye toast, poached egg, mushroom spinach and tomatoes.
Lunch- Minestrone soup and a spinach salad with roasted veg, cheese and walnuts.
Dinner- Cottage pie (with potato, swede and carrot mash on top), served with kale.
Yoghurt and fruit compote.

Tuesday-
Breakfast: Porridge with banana, peanut butter and dark chocolate chips.
Lunch: Minestrone soup and salad (same as Monday).
Dinner: Wholemeal couscous with mint, feta, peas, griddled asparagus, courgette and fennel (seasoned with lemon juice, olive oil and chilli).
Yoghurt with fruit compote and almonds.

Wednesday:
Breakfast: Porridge with fruit compote and nuts.
Lunch: Leftover vegetable and feta couscous. Banana and a couple of satsumas.
Dinner: Veggie chilli (made with 3 kinds of beans, chopped tomatoes, roasted peppers, onions and sweetcorn) with baked sweet potato and guacamole.
Pineapple for dessert.

Thursday-
Breakfast: Omelette with roasted veg, spinach and feta
Lunch: Leftover chilli
Dinner: Salmon with new potatoes and roasted tomatoes, fennel, red onion and asparagus.

Friday-
Breakfast: Porridge with banana, peanut butter and dark chocolate chips.
Lunch: Omelette with roasted veg, spinach salad (spinach, tomatoes, avocado, cucumber, walnuts, cheese and balsamic dressing).
Dinner: Aubergine, mushroom, broccoli, spring onion and tofu stir fry, with brown rice.
Pineapple for dessert.

Saturday-
Breakfast: Rye toast with poached eggs, tomatoes, red onion, mushrooms and spinach.
Lunch: Jacket potato with cheese, coleslaw and spinach salad (spinach, roasted veg, walnuts, balsamic dressing).
Dinner: Seabass with roasted tomatoes, red onions, fennel and black olives.
Yoghurt with fruit compote.

Sunday-
Breakfast: Pancakes with fruit compote, bananas and whipped cream.
Lunch: Roast chicken, cauliflower cheese, roasted carrots/beetroot/parsnips/red onions, roast potatoes, wilted kale.
Apple and pear crumble with cream for dessert.
Dinner: Probably a salad with whatever roasted veg is left in the fridge, nuts, cheese and balsamic dressing.