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Virgin media funding trans surgery

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Rosiesmydog · 15/04/2022 15:15

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/virgin-media-o2-sex-change-diversity-inclusion-b2058075.html#Echobox=1649950473

Virtue signalling? How about Branson pays the nhs the money he’s done them out of instead

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Blossomtoes · 15/04/2022 20:43

Vs so much actual real benefit this money could do for people who are in pain, every day, possibly terminally ill?

I suspect they don’t have too many people like that in their workforce.

flashbac · 15/04/2022 20:47

So of you are a disabled employee do they fund any healthcare for that? Why not?

flashbac · 15/04/2022 20:49

@EasterIssland
Cutting off healthy body parts or pumping bodies with hormones, when sex is immutable, is the problem. I supposed some people don't want to pay towards that.

EasterIssland · 15/04/2022 20:53

[quote flashbac]@EasterIssland
Cutting off healthy body parts or pumping bodies with hormones, when sex is immutable, is the problem. I supposed some people don't want to pay towards that.[/quote]
Take you’re against many other surgeries as well , or ivf as it’s hormones as well.

And how does it affect you that someone that isn’t happy with their body decide to go through surgery and hormones ?

Skinnydogz · 15/04/2022 20:53

Richard Branson hasn't had anything to do with Virgin media for years.

"The recently merged telecoms company said it would provide funding for gender transition treatment for its transgender and non-binary employees.

Trans and non-binary employees will have access to “medical care, support and advice with work underway to develop and implement a comprehensive package of support,” the company said in a statement"

Seems like part of a wide package of employee benefits, doubt they are paying for all staff to have surgery as it's being made out. Not sure why this is such a big deal here to be honest. Just like having a medical care plan with a job.

Blossomtoes · 15/04/2022 20:57

Just like having a medical care plan with a job

Or even just having a medical care plan with a job.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 15/04/2022 21:13

@Quincunx

Virgin Media are a joke company with shit broadband and abysmal customer service. The kind you only get replies from if you post on facebook. Please leave the company to die off quietly.
This. I'd rather do without the internet and TV than use them again. I got fed up with telling 'customer service' (that's a joke) how to do their jobs (I worked for them back in the Telewest days unfortunately).
flashbac · 16/04/2022 10:25

@EasterIssland
If I company started funding cosmetic surgery for those with body dysphoria, I would boycott them too.

Whatwouldscullydo · 16/04/2022 10:41

Let's hope they also help find reputable surgeons.

Not like the ones performing mastectomies on teenagers.

I hope there will also be increased accessibility for the employees when they return to work peeing into a bag and have a hand disability. The complication rate for phalloplasty is incredibly alarming.

If he pays fir the surgeries he needs to pay fir the months of physio therapy needed.

I.also assume there will be a room or 2 set aside for dilation? There's a heavy dilation schedule for post op transwomen. So there would have to be paid time off and facilities available to do this if they wish fir them to return to work.

Do you think he knows just how many surgeries and repairs and physio it xoyod actually lead to paying for or does he think.its a one off trip to the hospital stitches out 10 days later return to work like nothing happened?

The complications and revision surgeries can go on for years. Racking up to the hundreds of thousands of pounds

YryBuyTry7295 · 16/04/2022 10:47

Liberty Global bought VM from Richard Branson & other shareholders more than 5 years ago. However, the Virgin brand remains, so he probably takes some brand fees.

Liberty Global merged with 02/Telefonica last year

Whatwouldscullydo · 16/04/2022 11:20

And how does it affect you that someone that isn’t happy with their body decide to go through surgery and hormones ?

Friends and family have to pick up the pieces or become carers when complications arise.

The nhs has to pick up the tab when things go wrong. Cue wait time increases for a&e or operations or ambulances .

Yes that can Happen with any surgery/illness but there's a huge difference between medically necessary surgeries and ones which have not even really been shown to improve the situation for the trans patient. Their distress remains. Many regret the decision. Its removing body parts to treat a psychological.illness.

Its really not some simple act that affects no body else ever.

When drs pose on Instagram with buckets of breast tissue or sad faces because they only got to "yeet 4 teets" this week do you believe they really have the best interests of trans people at heart?

Don't you think trans people deserve better than being used to gain likes on Instagram? And companies virtue signalling amd paying for surgeries that have high failure rates and leave healthy bodies with disabilities, incontinence and a lifelong need to insert objects to keep the hole open because the bodies own response to a.wound that shouldn't be there is to try and close and heal it?

Tigofigo · 19/04/2022 17:24

@Whatwouldscullydo

Let's hope they also help find reputable surgeons.

Not like the ones performing mastectomies on teenagers.

I hope there will also be increased accessibility for the employees when they return to work peeing into a bag and have a hand disability. The complication rate for phalloplasty is incredibly alarming.

If he pays fir the surgeries he needs to pay fir the months of physio therapy needed.

I.also assume there will be a room or 2 set aside for dilation? There's a heavy dilation schedule for post op transwomen. So there would have to be paid time off and facilities available to do this if they wish fir them to return to work.

Do you think he knows just how many surgeries and repairs and physio it xoyod actually lead to paying for or does he think.its a one off trip to the hospital stitches out 10 days later return to work like nothing happened?

The complications and revision surgeries can go on for years. Racking up to the hundreds of thousands of pounds

Who is "he"?!

There have already been repeated comments that Branson no longer runs or has anything to do with VM

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 19/04/2022 17:46

Wait until the lawsuits start piling up. That this WILL happen is pretty much a given, once people start blinking in the daylight and realising what's been driving (or misappropriating) the TRA movement. The biggest clue is that it very often involves no recourse to surgery whatsoever, and the stories increasingly emerging from the media serving as a response to the 'this never happens' line of defence.

I can anticipate that any private business that's got into funding of this highly controversial, contested area of medicine might find itself in hot water fairly quickly. They are taking an enormous risk, quite aside from the risk to their own reputation should history not judge this (still very new) shift in the way people had anticipated. The aggression of this movement could yet be to its detriment.

I wouldn't stake my life insurance policy on it, personally.

Tomikka · 19/04/2022 18:03

This is part of their wider diversity & inclusion policy and medical care provision

Transgender is one factor, among race, gender (the classic two plus the range of others), opportunities for younger staff, progression into management etc

But it gets more clicks and shares for the media outlets to put trans in the headline

www.virgin.com/about-virgin/latest/virgin-media-o2-introduces-new-diversity-equity-and-inclusion-strategy

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