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To not want a branded hoodie or t-shirt for every occasion?

24 replies

shreakin · 15/04/2022 12:38

Just letting off some steam and testing the water to see if others agree. My kids have both been in various clubs and teams over the years, and have had leavers hoodies or t-shirts, branded hoodies for school trips etc. Some have been worn more than others, and some not at all. One particular club insists on new teamwear almost every season. Some items are compulsory, others can be more easily avoided. Apart from the obvious expense, it has always bothered me that I can't just easily donate these things to a charity shop when they are outgrown or unworn, because they are personalised and/or have very specific logos. It also makes me shudder when people suggest wearing one-off creations for Hen nights or (most recently) parent supporter hoodies for a sport event. Yet otherwise sensible people seem to think these are a great idea and lap them up. Surely this is fast fashion, bad for the planet, and we should be calling it out more?

And yes, whenever possible, I do resist buying them. I've no doubt I'll be one of the few supporters of my kids' team not wearing the supporters hoody at the grand final next month, and will feel slightly sad and self-conscious as a result - but that 'left out' feeling is precisely what will make me say yes next time my one of my kids ask for an optional teamwear item.

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TeenPlusCat · 15/04/2022 12:54

I agree not every occasion, especially anything you wouldn't wear again.

However the hoodies my DDs got for school trips abroad had a purpose in letting staff identify them from a distance had to be worn/visible at all times) and got worn again.

Lindy2 · 15/04/2022 12:59

I agree with you. It's a terrible waste.

Surely 1 team top that stays the same for all seasons is absolutely fine.

It would put me off taking part really.

NuffSaidSam · 15/04/2022 13:02

YANBU

It's so annoying and wasteful. And expensive, lots of parents can't afford to keep shelling out for nonsense personalised clothing.

VivaDixie · 15/04/2022 13:04

Someone local to us is making cushions out of old hoodies which is a nice idea. She is totally ripping people off mind as I could knock them up for a couple of quid but she is charging £20 to make them for you.
If you have a sewing machine or pnow someone who has one then they are really easy to do and would look nice in the DCs bedrooms

minniep · 15/04/2022 13:11

Yanbu at all. I'm all surprised at how much people are into this stuff. I hate the trend for fast fashion and buying clothes for one wear. At least I now have DD age 9 on board with me. The personalised stuff is the worse as it can't be passed on or reused. We had a first communion last year and I was made to feel like a right boring old cow when I said I wasn't buying any personalised dressing gowns etc for the day.

CaptainThe95thRifles · 15/04/2022 13:14

I do like a silly branded hoodie, but anything that won't be worn until it dies a threadbare death more than once is ludicrously unsustainable and pointless.

MolkosTeenageAngst · 15/04/2022 16:26

I found it interesting that when I was in Thailand they had large second-hand shops which were full of clothes like this; leavers hoodies, t-shirts from stag and hen-dos, lots of school, college or business branded things etc. They had obviously been shipped over from the USA where presumably there isn’t a second-hand market for them.

ILoveAllRainbowsx · 15/04/2022 16:35

There was a programme on channel 4 about this the other day.

Ghana has literally got mountains of clothes that ruin in its beaches and waters
www.insideedition.com/mountains-of-old-donated-clothes-consumes-beautiful-beach-in-ghana-69935

Whatalovelydaffodil · 15/04/2022 16:38

@TeenPlusCat

I agree not every occasion, especially anything you wouldn't wear again.

However the hoodies my DDs got for school trips abroad had a purpose in letting staff identify them from a distance had to be worn/visible at all times) and got worn again.

But couldn't they have worn their normal school uniform? If they were abroad wearing a standard British school uniform they would have been very recogniseable! ( In virtually every single country)
Lindy2 · 15/04/2022 16:45

I agree Whatalovelydaffodil

Our school often uses the PE t-shirt for school trips. Being bright yellow it stands out well, they're recognisable as a school group and no one has to pay out pointlessly for new clothes that don't get worn again.

TeenPlusCat · 15/04/2022 18:04

But couldn't they have worn their normal school uniform? If they were abroad wearing a standard British school uniform they would have been very recogniseable! ( In virtually every single country)

I suppose they could but I can't see that ever happening in practice.
Imagine wandering around Paris or Nice in blazers, ties, uniform shoes etc. Versus wearing jeans or shorts and trainers with a hoodie tied around your waist.

These trips are meant to be educational and enjoyable. Forcing teens to wear school uniform would in my opinion be weird and put them off going.

BogRollBOGOF · 15/04/2022 18:11

I end up with race t-shirts from running so I make sure I wear them. Warm up layers or casual wear for housework which saves wear and buying regular clothes. They are begining to become more of an opt-in extra and I don't tend to buy them then; it would have to be a particularly meaningful event.

I'm still wearing uni society jumpers/ hoodies from 20+ years ago Grin

Whatalovelydaffodil · 15/04/2022 20:36

@TeenPlusCat

But couldn't they have worn their normal school uniform? If they were abroad wearing a standard British school uniform they would have been very recogniseable! ( In virtually every single country)

I suppose they could but I can't see that ever happening in practice.
Imagine wandering around Paris or Nice in blazers, ties, uniform shoes etc. Versus wearing jeans or shorts and trainers with a hoodie tied around your waist.

These trips are meant to be educational and enjoyable. Forcing teens to wear school uniform would in my opinion be weird and put them off going.

I see your point. But school is generally meant to he educational and enjoyable, whether you're on a school trip or in the school building :)
parietal · 15/04/2022 20:38

My kids get given free t shirts by various summer camps but never wear them. It is just a walking advert for the camp and not useful to us. I try to refuse but the shirt often gets put in the child's backpack anyway.

TheSpottedZebra · 15/04/2022 20:40

Do you ever raise it, how ruinous they are for the environment and also the wallet?
And reference how that goes against any eco/ accessibility line in their purpose or strategy?

OfstedOffred · 15/04/2022 20:42

Secondary schools round our way try and have you put initials on uniform, PE stuff especially. Its fucking obvious it's intended to kill off second hand sales and make more money. Its terrifically wasteful.

lanthanum · 15/04/2022 20:55

I have a hobby which has an annual international meet, which usually results in a team shirt and an event shirt. At each event, people tend to turn up in a selection of the shirts from previous events. The UK has now moved to not having a new shirt every time. I actually get really good wear out of the shirts, as I work from home so wear them a lot - one is nearly worn out (but I don't wear the current UK shirt so that stays in good condition!).

One of DD's holiday activities does optional hoodies/shirts - and that's not so bad, as they're not dated, so can be passed on to younger siblings/friends. But the "event 2022" T-shirts for kids events are such a waste, because they don't make sense to be handed on when outgrown.

If you want something for identification purposes, then maybe there's sense in giving everyone a brightly-coloured shirt/hoodie/cap, but just have a relevant image and not words/dates.

I like the idea of making cushions out of "leavers' hoodies". The kids do love those - for the couple of years before they grow out of them.

SE13Mummy · 15/04/2022 21:27

For every event/season it definitely feels like a waste, especially if it doesn't get worn much. DC1, in spite of having been in a number of groups/organisations where a logo top would have been popular amongst the members, never had the chance to buy one. Their first group hoodie was their Y11 leavers hoodie.

DC2 is involved in a couple of groups where team hoodies are a thing. For the first, they got a hoodie aged 8 and wore it loads (a benefit of not having a uniform at primary school) until it was too small aged 11 at which point it was passed to a friend's much younger sibling who wears it with pride. They now have a new hoodie (aged 12) and will get a decent amount of wear out of that one too. Their other hobby is keen on team wear but we've only bought the generic club hoodie (which will be donated to the club when it's outgrown and sold to raise funds) and the national team hoodie. DC2 lives in these hoodies; I don't buy them just because they're available but buy them because they will be worn... and it means I don't buy other casual hoodies.

shreakin · 15/04/2022 22:24

@TheSpottedZebra

Do you ever raise it, how ruinous they are for the environment and also the wallet? And reference how that goes against any eco/ accessibility line in their purpose or strategy?
I have. I suggested they leave a date off, so the item could be reworn in future years. Sadly I was a lone voice on an otherwise supportive Whatsapp group and it didn't do any good, but made me feel better. Maybe they'll think twice next year, but I don't think anything will change until Sport England filters some clear sustainability messages down to grassroots sports clubs via their national governing bodies.
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Ohmygoshyoudontsay · 15/04/2022 22:30

I would absolutely wear a hoody with my kids' sports club on it again. I hame a hoody with my kids sports club on it ams I wear it frequently. Why do you think people won't wear them again?

shreakin · 16/04/2022 10:01

@Ohmygoshyoudontsay

I would absolutely wear a hoody with my kids' sports club on it again. I hame a hoody with my kids sports club on it ams I wear it frequently. Why do you think people won't wear them again?
Because it has the name and date of the event on it, and has been specially made for that event, in a bright colour and style that I wouldn't normally wear. It's designed to stand out from the crowd, as a demonstration of support for the team. If people think they will wear them on an ongoing basis, that's fine, but I won't.
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shreakin · 16/04/2022 10:13

Another recent example - my daughter's school were having a mufti day to support a specific cause and a large group of children (not my daghter) had a special t-shirts made up for that day, to show their support, with a logo and the mufti day date on it. They were pretty low quality and I doubt many of them would be worn again. They also cost significantly more than the school's suggested mufti day donation, so the money might have been better directed to the cause.

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jytdtysrht · 16/04/2022 10:16

You can definitely wear items again - who cares what they say on them? Or use as PJs? Your team that gets new kit every season sounds bizarre though. Aside from the waste, who could be bothered with that?

TeenPlusCat · 16/04/2022 10:20

@OfstedOffred

Secondary schools round our way try and have you put initials on uniform, PE stuff especially. Its fucking obvious it's intended to kill off second hand sales and make more money. Its terrifically wasteful.
I suspect it is more to do with people 'borrowing', i.e. stealing, PE kit than killing second hand sales.
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