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To think this isn’t on? (it’s a workplace one)

19 replies

newgateshead · 10/04/2022 16:47

First of all disclaimer this isn’t an xenophobic post I’m only half English myself and I’ve worked with many Italians before who have been great. There are good and bad people/coworkers of every nationality and I am aware of that. My current workplace specifically is bothering me.

I’m a bar supervisor at an Italian restaurant. It’s an evening job for some extra money (though I do long shifts at weekends sometimes 11am-11pm) and I mainly just make drinks, clean and look after the young bar staff.

All of the staff are Italian except me and the other 2 bar people. A uni student and then a 17 year old glass collector. All of the Italian staff know each other and speak Italian to each other. Of course, this isn’t an issue in itself and I had no problem.
But in my 6 months there I’ve noticed blatant differences in how management treat other Italian staff and how they treat me and ‘my’ staff on the bar.

First of all it was over staff food. When me and the 2 others work long shifts (we get a one hour break tbf but so do the other staff) and aren’t offered any staff food. Meanwhile the rest of the staff swan in and are given pasta and pizza. At first I thought it was just a case of “don’t ask, don’t get” so when the girl I work with on the bar said she was feeling faint 10 hours into a 12 hour shift I ask the manager if a pizza could be made for her. She got the chefs to do it but a big hoo-ha was made about it and the it. Just a couple of hours before during a lull in business they were all eating full-sized meals together and chatting away. We weren’t offered anything. They also descend on the bar at the end of the shift while we’re cleaning and make cocktails for themselves. Yet me and the other 2 bar staff are told to not even have juice to get us through a shift. There’s a coffee machine on the bar and we have a 2 coffee a day allowance.

Cash tips. I’ve seen the manager unlocking the cash tip box and handing out tips, again is 3 get nothing yet I distinctly remember when I applied the job description said tips would be handed out equally. At first I thought maybe as a supervisor I didn’t get tips as I’m on a higher wage than the waiters but eventually the 2 staff I supervise asked me why they hadn’t been given tips. All I said to them was that they mustn’t be doing them yet.

I hear my name and the name of other non-Italian speaking staff mentioned in conversation whilst we are right there next to them. This makes me uncomfortable and self conscious.

I don’t think I’ll speak up or report it or anything. I’m going to hand in my notice. But it’s not on is it? Or should I have made more effort to be included in the ‘clique’? But even so I think staff food should still be offered.

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FionnulaTheCooler · 10/04/2022 16:51

Its unfair to provide free food for some staff members and not others, but can you not take in your own food to have on your hour's break? I don't think its your employer's responsibility to feed you. The tips thing is totally out of order and they just don't sound pleasant to work for so I'd probably be looking for a new job in your shoes too.

RewildingAmbridge · 10/04/2022 16:54

If you're hanging in your notice you may as well raise it, you've got nothing to lose

Tania64 · 10/04/2022 16:56

This is blatant racism. You need to take legal advice.

MrsTerryPratchett · 10/04/2022 16:59

@Tania64

This is blatant racism. You need to take legal advice.
No it's not.

FFS 'Italian' isn't a race for a start.

It is shitty and it's not on.

PonyPatter44 · 10/04/2022 17:00

Its customary in restaurants to feed the staff - all of them! The managers sound discriminatory and horrible. The good news is, its an employees market in hospitality right now, so you and the other two should just go and get new jobs, and leave them to it.

Tickledtrout · 10/04/2022 17:02

Yeah it's not on.

machinimiacrinj · 10/04/2022 17:03

@FionnulaTheCooler.

The thing is though on all restaurants I’ve worked in in the past staff food has been a thing. You have to eat in the main restaurant area as there is nowhere else and it’d look messy if there was a staff member tucking into a Tesco salad.

TabithaTittlemouse · 10/04/2022 17:04

Have you ever asked about all of this?

Suzi888 · 10/04/2022 17:05

Not a nice place to work then- I’d get out as fast as I could. Flowers

Trillian2000 · 10/04/2022 17:06

It would be classed as discrimination due to race under the equality act as race as a protected characteristic includes ethnicity, culture and language, which are all at play here. So legally it seems to be unlawful discrimination.

machinimiacrinj · 10/04/2022 17:07

OP I used to work in a similar Spanish restaurant. If you weren’t Spanish you weren’t welcome or included in anything. They wanted you to work then fuck off home.

Georgeskitchen · 10/04/2022 17:20

They should be speaking English when at work in this country. Tips should be shared by everyone and free food for everyone or no-one . Are you getting your correct break entitlement? I would be tempted to just not bother turning up. The hospitality trade seems to be struggling for staff just now I bet you could walk into another job easily

LegMeChicken · 10/04/2022 17:22

YANBU.
I used to work in a number of similar places (Chinese, Spanish, Greek) all the same.
However people won't do anything about it. Apparently only white British people can be racist, towards BAME. Nothing else exists.
**Ironically i'm not white...

WhydoesthesunalwaysshineonTV · 10/04/2022 17:24

I would ask them and make them explain why.

newgateshead · 10/04/2022 17:29

@LegMeChicken

Yes admittedly I’m too nervous to do anything about it in case I’m accused of being a bigoted xenophobe and I think they know that nobody will speak up.

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irishfarmer · 10/04/2022 17:45

I'd be very annoyed about that! Maybe speak up for the younger staff members and ask why ye are not offered meals when all other staff members are? Any restaurant I've ever worked in did offer free food, inc when I worked in a take away pizza place. It sounds like the chef might be a bit of an arse making a fuss. Does the owner/ manager know? They might not be impressed.
Also really bad form about the tips.

irishfarmer · 10/04/2022 17:46

Meant to say speak up for the younger staff before you leave.

TheFlis12345 · 10/04/2022 17:46

I would be politely asking them to clarify the policy on staff food, drinks and tips because ‘it seems to vary so you’re not clear on what’s ok’. They will either have to confirm you should be getting food etc or if not, you can query ‘oh ok, because X and Y got two meals on their last shift, were there different circumstances that changed the policy then?’.

MrsMoastyToasty · 10/04/2022 17:51

Rest breaks at work
Workers have the right to one uninterrupted 20 minute rest break during their working day, if they work more than 6 hours a day. This could be a tea or lunch break.

The break doesn’t have to be paid - it depends on their employment contract

This is from the gov.uk website.

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