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Is it U or NU to check partners phone?

43 replies

MsDataPotata · 09/04/2022 15:45

Trying to keep this concise & not reveal where I stand on debate. Posting for your opinions as my friend is torn.

  1. Her (G) & him (R) split after 2.5 years. Wedding & house purchase were cancelled.
  2. Reason they split was that her self esteem was rock bottom & his uncaring nature was probably 50% the reason.
  3. They're attempting to reconcile after 6 months apart. He appears to have realised what he lost & is treating her well.
  4. During the 6 months, she had a FWB, no emotional attachment, very casual. He had one short lived relationship (4 weekends, sex once, he ended it because he wasn't physically attracted to her). He then spent a weekend with another Tinder date, C, no sex because he'd made an insensitive comment about her appearance so plans were off & they slept in separate rooms at her place, however, the long chats on WhatsApp continued. They didn't meet up in person again because it's a 1.5 hour journey.
  5. He text G from C's bedroom that morning & over the next 2 weeks, they decided to try again.
  6. R got drunk & told G that he had really fancied C, thought she was an amazing person & had been falling in love with her. R said fair enough, we've both seen others, we both go 'no contact' with these others. Both agreed, her FWB & his 'C' were blocked & deleted.
  7. 2 weeks later, G finds contact has continued between R & C. He once again promises to block & delete.
  8. Another 2 weeks later, G finds contact has still continued but via a different messaging app, not text message, this is relevant for later on. Other relevant info here is that it was an app where R isn't visible online like he is with WhatsApp.
  9. G didn't read the conversation (silly cow) because she felt that would have been too intrusive.
10. R justified the contact by saying C had been diagnosed with cancer, had got in touch to tell him & he felt he had to reply to her. 11. G asked R how she'd got in touch if she was blocked & he'd deleted her number. R said 'she kept my number & text me'. 12. G has given R the benefit of the doubt, he's blocked C on every platform & G has told him that if there's any further communication that's it, she's leaving the relationship for good. He's said he doesn't want C & if she finds a way to contact him again he'll tell G but not reply to C.

So, should she trust him? G looked on R's phone because he had mentionitis again which went beyond a short conversation sympathising about an illness. G isn't a natural snooper, she cringes when she talks about doing it & feels guilty.

YANBU: Check his phone now & then for reassurance.
YABU: Don't check his phone. Trust him.

I've told her what I think but aparently this is the complete opposite to what our other friend said to her. What do you think? I'll be sending her the link to this thread so she can read responses.

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Neverreturntoathread · 09/04/2022 16:23

I’ve never ‘checked’ DH’s phone, that’s the sign of a relationship that’s pretty dead anyway so what is the point? The ‘snoop or don’t snoop’ question is the wrong question.

Real queation is why are they together when there is no respect or trust? Here it sounds like R is v bad news for G. Telling her he had been falling in love with someone else is very cruel / manipulative. Lying about being in contact with bis ex makes it even worse.

This couple are never gonna make each other happy so why string this out, they should just end it. Then R can run off to C and G can find someone who’s actually pleasant to her.

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 09/04/2022 16:28

Well, YABU because you’ve presented two alternatives but neither of them is the actual solution to this situation, which is:

There’s clearly no trust left in this relationship and he obviously has strong feelings for the other woman so your friend needs to hang on to some shred of dignity and self-respect and break up with him.

comealongponds · 09/04/2022 16:32

Why are you staying with someone who’s given you reason not to trust him without checking his phone? It didn’t work before, it’s not going to work now either.

sleepymum50 · 09/04/2022 16:32

If she’s at a make or break decision, then checking his phone will give her the proof she needs - then she should check his phone definitely.

Snooping on someone’s phone when you trust someone is not on. I personally am of the opinion that you should live your life in a way that never requires you to hide something. If you ever find yourself doing something that your mum/dad/children wouldn’t approve of, then you shouldn’t do it.

So she should check his phone. Mind you he sounds pretty dodgey.

PearlclutchersInc · 09/04/2022 16:35

Dear lord....if she doesn't trust him without looking at his phone its time to move on.

Sarkymarky · 09/04/2022 16:36

G needs to leave R he does not sound that committed to G
Maybe I am a bit daft but if R had blocked C how could R receive txt from C.

bluebaul · 09/04/2022 16:37

Bloody hell checking a bag home is the very least going on here.

This sounds like an absolute mess, one that's best left alone.

Atmywitsend29 · 09/04/2022 16:39

3rd option. G should leave and get on with her life Confused

GrowingUpIsATrap · 09/04/2022 16:43

I wouldn't waste my time in this relationship. Better to be single than be with someone you can't trust.
Even if you check his phone now and its all clear, you'll never fully trust him and it will always be in the back of your mind that he may be contacting her again.

MulberryBush700 · 09/04/2022 16:45

Well it's clear as day that R wanted to carry on messaging C. And he did, even after getting caught the first time. That should have been the end of it for G. If I block someone, they can't message me just because they have my number? Blocked means the messages won't come through. Unless I missed something.

I'd absolutely not trust a single word that comes out of R's mouth. G should move on and find someone who doesn't make her feel insecure. This is not a healthy relationship.

CrowAndABut · 09/04/2022 16:49

He's an lying arse and she should dump him.

Never stay with someone you don't trust - and always believe who someone is when they show you (he's a lier).

EllaVaNight · 09/04/2022 16:57

God just split up. If the relationship only works when someone's regularly invading their privacy then quite honestly, it's shit isn't it.

Chloemol · 09/04/2022 17:03

If he wanted to get back with her he would have ditched any contact with C

He hasn’t which means he actually isn’t really interested in getting back with her and will dump her if someone better comes along

She should save herself the pain and dump him

MsDataPotata · 09/04/2022 17:04

Thank you! My opinion is: he didn't block her properly twice for a reason. He's lied about it twice & also, using a different messaging app shows intentional deception, he KNEW he shouldn't have been doing it & this different app was obviously discussed between him & the OW. I say LTB. Sorry G, I know that's not what you want to hear but it really isn't just my 'harsh nature' talking. He's stringing you along & taking advantage of your trusting nature. Don't let him destroy you again.

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Chickychoccyegg · 09/04/2022 17:11

R cannot be trusted, he's lied about blocking C, a message or call can't get through if blocked, and he deliberately set out to keep contact through a different app, which must have been discussed through a call.
Dump him and find someone nicer who respects you.

MNCar · 09/04/2022 17:12

It’s the sink cost fallacy too. Give it up.

Blimeyherewegoagain · 09/04/2022 17:20

I wouldn’t have time for all that drama and would just move on.

Momijin · 09/04/2022 17:23

I think they should all grow up and next time can you just make up some names because it is really hard to follow all these initials

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