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Deeply concerned about Child Safety in Bristol

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MatthewJTaylor · 07/04/2022 21:28

From May 5th to May 8th 2022, the Tobacco Factory Theatres in Bristol is having performances of "The Family Sex Show".
This show is aimed at children 5 years old and up.
The performers involved get naked.
The discussion with the children is on sex, sexuality and sexual pleasure.

I cannot imagine brining a 5 year old child to a theatre where people will to to her/him about sex and show their naked bodies to her/him.

Am I the crazy one?

Sources:
The Family Sex Show website
Listing at The Tobacco Factory Theatres

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Redskiesatnight · 09/04/2022 20:17
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DomesticatedZombie · 09/04/2022 20:29

NSPCC:

Safeguarding in the performing arts

'There are also lots of things you can do to make sure children feel comfortable. For example, you should make sure:

the activity is suitable for children to be involved in (for example no nudity, bad language or sexual content)
everything you do is appropriate for the youngest or most vulnerable person (this could be due to age or stage of the child’s development)'

learning.nspcc.org.uk/safeguarding-child-protection/for-performing-arts

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SevenWaystoLeave · 09/04/2022 20:29

@apricotlane

I'd like to make what I think is an important point here to the hippy libs who are in any way apologists for these wannabee avant-garde amateurs with their pious sexual evangelism while they simultaneously get their 'actor'/exhibitionist rocks off (don't these people just always ruin sex - look at the state of them! Bleugh).

You people talk about nudity not being shameful. Please note that while nudity is not shameful; nudity, as perceived by most children up until quite late is not sexual nor related to sex. Even childhood self-exploration of genitals is unrelated to 'sex'. Relating nudity and bodies to sex is an adult projection onto these children and an invasion of their childhood and innocence. Children do not need their sexual awakening foisted on them by some gender-bending, internet-addled weirdos with their pretence of offsetting porn etc. Nor do they relate themselves to adults - they fancy their peers who are entirely different to adults and the adult body. Adult sexuality is mostly repulsive to them until a turning point and even when they start sexual interest they are not generally interested in mature adults (unless they have been interfered with) but in each other. Not only do the zealots in this show want to foist sexual awareness onto the unasking child, they clearly want to foist the genderwang version of it. The loveless, fetishistic and uglified unicorn version of it.

There doesn't seem to me to be much more dangerous than a sexually fixated leftist who thinks he has a spiritual mandate to 'free' and 'educate' your children. This is the ministry of perverts.

This is a nasty generalising comment with some random transphobia thrown in
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OliveLover01 · 09/04/2022 20:37

Oh my god. The amount of people needing smelling salts here before they faint at the mere mention that a 5yr old might in anyway know about sex Shock would make the North Sea fresh water!!

Get over yourselves! It’s not grooming. Go and see it before you go all Daily Mail on it. There is nothing wrong with sex. And the more normal it is to children of any age the less likely that porn is going to be the major influencer in their perception of sex. I would absolutely prefer to take my two boys 7 and 6 to a family show about sex (as they say, an intersectional, feminist, non-binary, anti-racist & sex-positive take on Relationships and Sex Education) than to be all Merchant Ivory about it and have them learn about it from older siblings of friends or watching porn with mates later on.

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Redskiesatnight · 09/04/2022 20:40

Why are the only two options a seedy sex show with naked adults, or Merchant Ivory @OliveLover01 ?

Has it occurred to you there’s a middle ground?

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Terfydactyl · 09/04/2022 20:43

[quote DomesticatedZombie]NSPCC:

Safeguarding in the performing arts

'There are also lots of things you can do to make sure children feel comfortable. For example, you should make sure:

the activity is suitable for children to be involved in (for example no nudity, bad language or sexual content)
everything you do is appropriate for the youngest or most vulnerable person (this could be due to age or stage of the child’s development)'

learning.nspcc.org.uk/safeguarding-child-protection/for-performing-arts[/quote]
Ooh, the egg? Done fucked up.
Shame.

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Terfydactyl · 09/04/2022 20:45

@OliveLover01

Oh my god. The amount of people needing smelling salts here before they faint at the mere mention that a 5yr old might in anyway know about *sex* Shock would make the North Sea fresh water!!

Get over yourselves! It’s not grooming. Go and see it before you go all Daily Mail on it. There is nothing wrong with sex. And the more normal it is to children of any age the less likely that porn is going to be the major influencer in their perception of sex. I would absolutely prefer to take my two boys 7 and 6 to a family show about sex (as they say, an intersectional, feminist, non-binary, anti-racist & sex-positive take on Relationships and Sex Education) than to be all Merchant Ivory about it and have them learn about it from older siblings of friends or watching porn with mates later on.

Quoting for posterity.

Someone thinks a FIVE YEAR OLD child should know about sex.

I mean jesus nothing like proclaiming who and what you are.
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Dinosauria · 09/04/2022 20:45

There is nothing wrong with sex. And the more normal it is to children of any age

This people is what we are up against. People who want sex to be normal to five year olds.

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Redskiesatnight · 09/04/2022 20:46

@Dinosauria

There is nothing wrong with sex. And the more normal it is to children of any age

This people is what we are up against. People who want sex to be normal to five year olds.

They seem to think there is a way of enabling a five year to grasp the complexities of sex while simultaneously empowering them to spot when they’re being groomed.

There isn’t.
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MatthewJTaylor · 09/04/2022 20:48

To celebrate the petition hitting 10,000 signatories, (we're less than 200 hundred away as I write this) I will be speaking live to the UK Mallard (a sympathetic publication) at 9 o'clock on twitter alongside others who pulled together info on all this before I sent it over here to Mumsnet.

The account for UK Mallard is @ukmallard

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Patchbatch · 09/04/2022 20:50

@OliveLover01

Oh my god. The amount of people needing smelling salts here before they faint at the mere mention that a 5yr old might in anyway know about *sex* Shock would make the North Sea fresh water!!

Get over yourselves! It’s not grooming. Go and see it before you go all Daily Mail on it. There is nothing wrong with sex. And the more normal it is to children of any age the less likely that porn is going to be the major influencer in their perception of sex. I would absolutely prefer to take my two boys 7 and 6 to a family show about sex (as they say, an intersectional, feminist, non-binary, anti-racist & sex-positive take on Relationships and Sex Education) than to be all Merchant Ivory about it and have them learn about it from older siblings of friends or watching porn with mates later on.

There is a huge gulf between taking them to an inappropriate play with questionable motives, and it being addressed in age appropriate ways by trusted adults.
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Redskiesatnight · 09/04/2022 20:50

10,000 signatures already! I mean it’s a shame we have to have a petition against the public grooming of children but there you have it…

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MummyPebble · 09/04/2022 20:54

@OliveLover01Do 5 year olds need to know about squirting, pegging and BDSM? Not being combative or rhetorical, genuinely interested in your answer.

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MatthewJTaylor · 09/04/2022 20:57

Link to the live twitter space in which I will be speaking on this:
twitter.com/UKMallard/status/1512881984586096655

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MummyPebble · 09/04/2022 20:57

Sorry that should have been to @OliveLover01!

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MatthewJTaylor · 09/04/2022 20:59

That's the petition hit 5k, the twitter discussion is going live

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SouperNoodle · 09/04/2022 21:03

Can someone link me to the petition please?

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HRTQueen · 09/04/2022 21:04

MummyPebble agreeing with some of us bigots in here what next. well you can send emails as many of us have I shall just find the list kindly posted by another poster

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SolasAnla · 09/04/2022 21:05

[quote MummyPebble]@SolasAnla I'm concerned it's too near to opening and too late for it to be pulled now. Tickets have been sold and the venues won't want to lose the money, especially after the last couple of years. Also The Egg seem to be staunchly ignoring the criticism and the venues are refusing to discuss it.

The "mumsnet outrage" and DM coverage will probably just confirm to them they ARE doing the right thing and will spur them on. I know certain factions will wear shit like that as a badge of honour. To be clear I'm not saying there shouldn't have been outrage and the DM shouldn't have covered it, they absolutely should have but I just know what these people are like.

Having said all that I hope I'm wrong and I hope something is done.[/quote]
While you are justifying how and why the event will take place other's of the bigotry and ignorance and intolerance class are working to protect the children including children of the non-bigotry and non-ignorance and non-intolerance class.

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HRTQueen · 09/04/2022 21:11

List posted by Teesht

Teesht
I've emailed everyone I can think of - posting again should anyone else want to join me!

E-mail the papers to make some noise: [email protected]
More contact details here: //www.bristolpost.co.uk/contact-us/

Tabloids: [email protected]
[email protected]

E-mail the MP for that area:
[email protected]

The NSPCC: [email protected]

E-mail the mayor: [email protected]

If you can find contact details for the board of trustees than that'd be great: tobaccofactorytheatres.com/our-trustees/

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DomesticatedZombie · 09/04/2022 21:11

@OliveLover01

Oh my god. The amount of people needing smelling salts here before they faint at the mere mention that a 5yr old might in anyway know about *sex* Shock would make the North Sea fresh water!!

Get over yourselves! It’s not grooming. Go and see it before you go all Daily Mail on it. There is nothing wrong with sex. And the more normal it is to children of any age the less likely that porn is going to be the major influencer in their perception of sex. I would absolutely prefer to take my two boys 7 and 6 to a family show about sex (as they say, an intersectional, feminist, non-binary, anti-racist & sex-positive take on Relationships and Sex Education) than to be all Merchant Ivory about it and have them learn about it from older siblings of friends or watching porn with mates later on.

So, for those who are ostensibly parents with responsibility for young children who genuinely can't see the red flags with this show/premise/website:

Do you consider pornography suitable for 5 year olds? Is there any sexual content that you think children shouldn't be exposed to, or is it all fair game?
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MummyPebble · 09/04/2022 21:13

I'm not justifying it at all. I don't want it to take place, I just can't see it being pulled for the reasons I mentioned. I have emailed and I've signed the petition. It would be a start if the show runners or anyone involved in the show would actually engage with people instead of just ignoring very valid concerns and questions. If they truly believe they aren't doing anything wrong then why not come here directly and answer questions? But they won't which speaks volumes. Or why not be open and honest on Twitter and discuss it there?

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SolasAnla · 09/04/2022 21:15

@OliveLover01

Oh my god. The amount of people needing smelling salts here before they faint at the mere mention that a 5yr old might in anyway know about *sex* Shock would make the North Sea fresh water!!

Get over yourselves! It’s not grooming. Go and see it before you go all Daily Mail on it. There is nothing wrong with sex. And the more normal it is to children of any age the less likely that porn is going to be the major influencer in their perception of sex. I would absolutely prefer to take my two boys 7 and 6 to a family show about sex (as they say, an intersectional, feminist, non-binary, anti-racist & sex-positive take on Relationships and Sex Education) than to be all Merchant Ivory about it and have them learn about it from older siblings of friends or watching porn with mates later on.

Just a FYI for if and when you have children.

If the friend's older sibling is showing a child porn these siblings are engaged in criminal behaviours.

The act should be treated as active grooming and non contact child sex abuse.

It's also likely that the friend, siblings and family need reporting to social services to make sure that the friend and/or sibling has not thrmselves, been groomed and abused by others.
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