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Do you think not having a staff toilet is acceptable?

14 replies

Onanotherdiet38 · 01/04/2022 22:27

If working with a small group of children, just having one toilet for 3 staff and 4 young children, no access to another one. This is my current role, every other school has had separate staff toilets.

Or in a previous role, working with service users with learning difficulties and again only one toilet for everybody, service users that don't ever flush the chain (not saying it is their fault), with a broken lock on the door so service users could walk in on you at any minute.

I think both situations are not acceptable and that staff should be provided with their own toilets, am I just expecting too much though?

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Onanotherdiet38 · 01/04/2022 22:28

I don't even mean one set of toilets, I mean literally one single toilet

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TheHoptimist · 01/04/2022 22:29

You have to have separate toilets legally unless the toilet is a single lockable disabled toilet (which is a bit of a legal loophole)

LampLighter414 · 01/04/2022 22:30

Access to any toilet is good enough. I don't think who it is shared with is that important.

The lock situation you should have pushed repeatedly and loudly to get it fixed ASAP.

Onanotherdiet38 · 01/04/2022 22:30

Oh wow, I didn't know it was required by law.. nope, not a disabled toilet

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Onanotherdiet38 · 01/04/2022 22:31

The lock did eventually get fixed luckily.

I did some work in a nursery where the staff toilet had half a toilet seat, that was... uncomfortable.

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WeDontTalkAboutBrunoNoNoNo · 01/04/2022 22:32

I thought they had to be separate more for safeguarding reasons?

TheHoptimist · 01/04/2022 22:32

@LampLighter414

Access to any toilet is good enough. I don't think who it is shared with is that important.

The lock situation you should have pushed repeatedly and loudly to get it fixed ASAP.

Not in a school it isnt - there are legal requirements
Onanotherdiet38 · 01/04/2022 22:33

I agree it should be. I mean it's literally one tiny toilet and a sink. A lot of children don't flush the chain either.. we always tell them to but sometimes it gets missed.

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TheHoptimist · 01/04/2022 22:33

@WeDontTalkAboutBrunoNoNoNo

I thought they had to be separate more for safeguarding reasons?
They do- unless as `I said above it is a disabled toilet when it is a grey area
Loginmystery · 01/04/2022 22:33

@Onanotherdiet38

The lock did eventually get fixed luckily.

I did some work in a nursery where the staff toilet had half a toilet seat, that was... uncomfortable.

Why did you sit down?
Onanotherdiet38 · 01/04/2022 22:34

I'm not expecting a fancy posh set of toilets or anything but young children aren't always the best at hygiene habits and it's not nice having to go and flush somebody else's faeces down the toilet before you use it ..

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Itsbackagain · 01/04/2022 22:39

Current buildings standards for between 6 and 25 people (mixed use) is 2 toilets and 2 handbasins. However that's for new builds. For current spaces it's what is reasonably practical. This means you must provide such facilities unless it is clearly unreasonable in terms of time, trouble, cost and physical difficulty. One of our buildings has 3 toilets and can be 30 people using them. As it is current and would be very costly to alter and install additional this is classed as acceptable.

ouch321 · 01/04/2022 22:40

Yes of course they should. It's a requirement in education situations for safeguarding. And you need X cubicles per Y number of kids enrolled.
Besides if you only have one single lavatory, if it breaks, you're all up a gum tree..

mumda · 01/04/2022 22:49

Back in the nineties I almost set up a business repairing toilet locks in pubs.
Landlords sadly didn't want to pay for the work to be done but would sometimes take the hint.

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