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AIBU to be upset by my mum’s reaction?

25 replies

chatterbug22 · 26/03/2022 20:01

Sorry, I’ve posted once this week about it before but find it good to get objective opinions and try not to burden my friends with it all the time.

My relationship with my sister (several years older) is difficult. To sum up, her behaviour is less than great towards mainly me and I sometimes sense it is controlling. She quizzes me over what my 5 year plan is, strongly implies I’m boring or laughs when I don’t want to have a drink at family dos, uses passive aggressive tones and comments then acts very innocent and becomes extremely defensive when I call it out calmly, accusing me of looking for trouble and the bad in her. I feel as if she picks me apart sometimes but she insists she just cares. The icing on the cake was when we went on a family trip before Christmas; my parents and both couples. My mum wanted a nice photo of us for old time’s sake in a nice open area outdoors. Sister squeezed me hard for a hug for the camera, knowing I don’t like too much affection. When I resisted slightly she laughed and then pushed my face to the side with her hand, quite forcefully. When I looked stunned it was a ‘joke’, and then she quickly said, ‘should’ve done it harder and down the hill’. She and her partner wouldn’t let anyone else cook all holiday and planned out the meals, which my parents were thrilled with. They are good at cooking. I can’t have dairy and they made an OTT show of how accommodating they had been to my ‘special diet’. I said thank you but it began to feel awkward because it was repeatedly mentioned so I felt singled out. They’re marrying later this year (exciting!) but the entire holiday was spent talking about the wedding, and their dog. When my partner brought up a dog he had growing up the conversation swiftly was pulled back to them. This happened on many occasions to the point where my dad did help engineer the conversation so everyone had a turn - which was lovely. She grills my partner over his education, which he had in another country.

For all the reasons above and more, as much as it pains me I have had to take a step back for my own wellbeing as I don’t leave interactions with her feeling very good about myself. She will cry to my mum that I don’t care about her, and that I haven’t been to see her in months and she has no idea why. She has accused me of damaging our sister relationship and told me if I don’t ‘step up as a sister and friend, I will reconsider your position as bridesmaid at my wedding’. This naturally really upset me but felt like a bit of a guilt trip. I took a social media break and unfollowed a lot of people, including one of her accounts. She told my parents that I’d blocked her and proceeded to block me on everything.

It’s her birthday this weekend and she is having a weekend away. I’ve text her and wished her a nice time. My parents are at her house caring for their dog. I went round to drop off her present and a helium birthday balloon. Though nice at first, my mum quickly became unhappy with me and told me it was weighing heavy on her that I’m making no effort to see my sister on her actual birthday. Sister will not get home until late as they’re off having fun as they should on her special day. I happen to be working tomorrow and we are currently trying to renovate our new house, I’m stacked out with things to do.

My mum informed me if her sister did that, she’d send the present back with her and felt very disappointed that I am not putting the effort in that my sister puts into birthdays. She has said it is unequal and told me to ‘go away’. So I did. I’ve tried pointing things out before but it is no use reasoning, I don’t know if it’s me interpreting my sister incorrectly or easier for my parents to go along with the idea I’m uncaring rather than calling her out. It’s just so wearing and I don’t want to have to constantly feel like I need to put my own wellbeing to the side to keep the peace.

Honest thoughts? Finding it tough to be assertive as don’t want to upset DM Confused

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chatterbug22 · 26/03/2022 20:15

Appreciated if anyone can get to the bottom of my mega essay - I never realised how long it was!

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Totalwasteofpaper · 26/03/2022 20:25

Your mother is more than half the problem.

Read up on triangulation and enmeshed and see if any of it resonates

Throckmorton · 26/03/2022 20:28

Your sister sounds unbearable, and your mother sounds like she would do anything for an easy life, ie blame you (you being the polite, normal one) rather than blame your sister (the one who is likely to lose the plot if anyone points out she's being unbearable). I would be taking several large steps backwards and telling yout mum to address her complaints to the source of the problem (ie your sister), not the victim of it (ie you)

Xpologog · 26/03/2022 20:31

Your sister sounds like hard work. I’d stick with being polite, you’ve delivered a gift, card you don’t have to do any more.
Out of interest, how old is your sister?

chatterbug22 · 26/03/2022 20:33

@Xpologog late 20s.

@Totalwasteofpaper @Throckmorton thank you for the moral support, I’ll read up

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Magenta82 · 26/03/2022 20:36

Your sister dounds like hard work and your mum is enabling her bad behaviour, probably because she knows you are less likely to put up a fuss.

How likely us it that you could gave a rational discussion with your mum? Perhaps with your dad there as he seems to have noticed the behaviour and tried to help before.

User0ne · 26/03/2022 20:37

Well I certainly couldn't be arsed with all that. I'd back away from them both, nevermind if you're not a bridesmaid. You'd have to be happy with a less close relationship but it sounds like that's what you want anyway

DowntonCrabby · 26/03/2022 20:42

Your DM is controlling. Tell her to MYOB.

Did you post this exact thread recently re your DS pushing your face and quizzing you over a 5 year plan?

chatterbug22 · 26/03/2022 20:42

@Magenta82 @User0ne thank you, not sure a discussion would overly work as my mum defends her a lot because she only hears how much my sister claims to care and paints me as the one that wants nothing to do with her. It’s a hard dynamic.

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chatterbug22 · 26/03/2022 20:43

@DowntonCrabby yes I did but wanted to centre this one mainly on how difficult it is to keep other my mum happy, as I feel the pressure from her and never want her to be stressed or upset.

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WifeMotherWorkRepeat · 26/03/2022 20:43

Unfortunately it appears your mum is enabling your sisters abysmal behaviour. Are they similar characters and has this been your whole childhood? Can you talk to you dad about the situation? It all sounds very draining and I think you need to take a deep breath and stand up for yourself calmly but assertively and explain how the behaviour is making you feel.

DowntonCrabby · 26/03/2022 20:50

[quote chatterbug22]@DowntonCrabby yes I did but wanted to centre this one mainly on how difficult it is to keep other my mum happy, as I feel the pressure from her and never want her to be stressed or upset.[/quote]
You were told so many times on that thread that you are being bullied OP, have you accepted that?

Why are you prioritising your Mother’s feelings over your own?

I’d advise looking into the FOG aspect of toxic family dynamics.

Flowers you deserve your own peace and to have your boundaries respected.

chatterbug22 · 26/03/2022 20:55

@DowntonCrabby I care so much about DM, I don’t want her to feel stressed - she just wants everyone to get on. I accept it’s not my responsibility but just find it hard. She wants us to meet on Monday evening and says she has ‘called a meeting’, I really don’t want to air everything with my sister in front of her as don’t think it’s fair at all on DM.

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DowntonCrabby · 26/03/2022 21:00

You’ll get there in your own time @chatterbug22 and realise your Mum is as much of the problem. In the meantime I’d take a very low contact approach to them all.

Being summoned to essentially a “you don’t communicate as I want you all to” intervention is control. Control is abuse.

Again, you are worth more than this and deserve to live your life in peace OP. I don’t think you’re quite there yet but really try to take in what so many wise posters on MN are saying.

One or two is just an opinion, but when scores say the same thing it’s definitely something to think about. Flowers

RandomMess · 26/03/2022 21:01

Your Mum is feeding you to the wolf that is your sister.

You can't change your sister's behaviour but you can massively step back and stop taking on the responsibility that it is somehow your job to tie yourself in knots to try and appease your sister. It will never work because you have been assigned role of scapegoat.

SquirrelG · 26/03/2022 21:56

I would be stepping well back from your sister if I were you. As for this I care so much about DM, I don’t want her to feel stressed - she doesn't appear to feel the same about not wanting you to feel stressed. Honestly, I really think you are wasting your time trying to please either of them. Your sister sounds horrible, and your mother shouldn't be encouraging her. Just concentrate on your own life for now and take some space from them. Good luck.

Totalwasteofpaper · 27/03/2022 06:33

[quote chatterbug22]@DowntonCrabby I care so much about DM, I don’t want her to feel stressed - she just wants everyone to get on. I accept it’s not my responsibility but just find it hard. She wants us to meet on Monday evening and says she has ‘called a meeting’, I really don’t want to air everything with my sister in front of her as don’t think it’s fair at all on DM.[/quote]
You need to break the chain/ script

Do not go to this meeting. Literally don't turn up.

My mum is similar she is a kind caring and gentle woman and very much a peacekeeper. It took therapy for me to realise her need to people please and her anxiety about what others think and doing kind things for others will always come above me despite the fact her children are her everything and I am the "good child" she is closest too. And seemingly The only person she can find her anger for is me. Hmm
She will, and has, prioritised virtual strangers over me.
If I said this to her she would cry and say its not true but as an example one year she gave my aunt (not her DSis) my Xmas present that she bought for me because when she open her actual present from my DM she looked disappointed. So I got no gift and my generally horrible aunt got 2!!!

It's hard because you feel you are hurting your mum but she is hurting you it took a while forme to get to amore even keel with mine but things still crop up.

ukborn · 27/03/2022 07:43

Well stuff your sister. She sounds immature and narcissistic. I'd be happy to not have to be a bridesmaid at her wedding, so if she goes on about that 'resign'.
As for your mum - point out some home truths to her. Your sister may be as forceful with her as with you and after a lifetime this is how your mother deals with it but you don't have to.

MintJulia · 27/03/2022 07:52

Explain to your mother that you don't enjoy your sister's company - don't go into details - and so you won't be spending as much time with them.

And then detach. Remove yourself from their bullying. Go and enjoy yourself with nice people who want you to be happy. You are an adult and you are free to remove yourself from the situation.

eldora · 27/03/2022 08:30

I really don’t want to air everything with my sister in front of her as don’t think it’s fair at all on DM.

Why not? Confused Your mum is itching to get involved on behalf of your dsis, so you should air everything as well. Otherwise, you’re playing into dsis hands.

However, I think it’s best to go low contact with them all until they realise you’re not the scapegoat.

You’ve reposted this thread but it looks like you’ve clarified a lot in this new OP. I thought YANBU the first time you posted too.

Hoplesscynic · 27/03/2022 08:30

All good advice, OP. Don't dance to their tune! It sounds like your sister is bitching about you to your mum a lot and your mum chooses to take her side. Why can't your mum show the same understand and empathy when you tell her how you feel?
You are not making your mum stressed, she does that to herself (with your sister's help).
I have a sibling myself, who is hard work for different reasons and a mother who thinks biological relations are above anything else. I've stepped back from both. When sibling rings I literally dont pick up the phone (might send a short message instead), have stopped birthday gifts (it wasn't even reciprocated), dont even do a birthday phone call anymore. I don't tell them why, dont hurl accusations at them, and dont give any explanations. That's basically my advice to you as well. Step back, leave them to it.

KittyRedSocks · 28/03/2022 09:20

There is some great advice here OP. I hope it helps you. They're spot on.
It's not you, but when a parent gets involved I think we all feel like we're the bad guy, because how can loving parents be wrong? Your dad sounds bit more clear sighted, I hope that's the case.
Your mum sounds like my mum - and being kind - I know she didn't see she was being manipulated, it was just the easiest route to peace in the family. God I feel for you.
Your sis is a clever narcissist, woe betide she's ever been the problem. I don't think she'll ever see the light, but there's a chance your mum might always see it her way, so maybe good to be prepared for that. She's golden you're the scapegoat. It isn't you, so look after you.

EllieEllie · 29/01/2023 16:47

I don’t think it’s fair for you to watch tv and ignore her. No child would be happy with that. Will she watch tv with you if it’s something you both want to watch? Or will she watch some rubbish on an iPad to give you a break? Can you find a new hobby that’s tiring that you can do together, in the hopes she’ll be a bit worn out and calmer afterwards? Maybe bouldering? And yes tell your ex he needs to have her one day next weekend. But I sympathise, children who won’t stop talking are exhausting.

EllieEllie · 29/01/2023 16:48

Wrong thread sorry.

Murdoch1949 · 29/01/2023 19:00

Monday's meeting would be a sharkfest, with you as the prey. You would be foolish to attend, it is too soon for either of them to act calmly. Your mum has chosen her side and you will be pulled apart by the pair of them. Your sister will be getting her ducks in a row ready to destroy you. You are innocent, you have been as accomodating to your sister as you can be, too accommodating actually, as she is a vile bully. Why you would want to be her bridesmaid I do not know. She will take the opportunity to run you ragged with ludicrous demands. Drawback, revel in your nuclear family and their love and give your sister & mum time to reflect.

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