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AIBU for not liking my neighbours for this?

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Patienceisntvirtuous · 23/03/2022 20:48

Backstory-I live in a small house on a quiet street near a village centre (not rural though). It's a private road, which I always took to mean you can't randomly park your car on it unless you live there or are visiting?

Please correct me if it means something other than that.
I get along fine with all my neighbours, no issues usually. I pretty much keep to myself but we exchange friendly hellos and have a chat if we bump into one another or are in our gardens, and as the street goes around in a sort of curve, I see my neighbours behind too

Both my NDNs and the neighbours behind, for every conversation we've had in the last few months, have brought up the topic of XXX.

I know who they mean-there's a man who lives somewhere further away from the village centre and walks down our street to get to the village, and then back again, usually with a bag of shopping. I see him most days so I assume he does it every day.

He looks a bit different, perhaps has some mental health issues or LD, walks a bit odd compared to most people, always wears something a bit like a shellsuit but not quite, trousers always pulled up high ,and we've seen him wearing odd trainers before. He always has a big cheesy grin on his face as he walks, and says a friendly hello very brightly if you greet him. I get no bad feeling from him at all. He gives the impression he doesn't want to stop and talk, always just smiles and carries on. He may also have no MH issues or LD and just likes to dress like that, so what?

One neighbour has said they are getting fed up of him walking this way, It's just as quick to walk to the centre of the village various other ways and why can't he do that. Another has said they're going to have a word with him 'as It's a private road'. Another has said they know where he lives and are going to start hanging about outside his house to teach him to leave this street alone, or try to 'wind him up' when they next see him.

I feel sorry for him. I have asked him how he is before, but he just grins at me and carries on walking,I'm not sure he knows what I mean or perhaps just wants to go about his day.

I don't think he is not 'allowed' to walk up this street just because It's classed as a private road, he isn't in a car. I did actually say that to neighbour once but they said 'Nobody else walks up this street' which is fair, they don't that I know of, it's not a known through route to anywhere, it just happens to be a different way to get from the main road to the village. I really don't want anyone having a go at him as he seems quite vulnerable. I don't like them calling him XXX either! I think we should be a bit kinder in this day and age!

I'm not very confrontational but It's making me look negatively at my neighbours for being judgmental, he's not doing any harm. Should I say something further to them or leave alone as I don't want bad relations. WWYD?

Thread title edited by MNHQ to remove disablist term

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Hollywolly1 · 23/03/2022 21:38

Ths man doesn't even do anything wrong,they just picking on him because of the way he walks🤣 exactly how bonkers are they but I do think they live very sad shallow lives whereas the nan always has a smile on his face

Hollywolly1 · 23/03/2022 21:38

The man

BirdWatch · 23/03/2022 21:38

How disgusting of your neighbours.
Shame on them!

Patienceisntvirtuous · 23/03/2022 21:48

@Phlewf

My first thought was your road was “safer” for him, hopefully just from disablist arseholes. And XXX was almost always some disabled person tolerated but victimised, not just someone a bit silly. I can’t imagine why people don’t want anyone on thr pavement in front of their house (although I know they do). If you’re not up for confrontation I’d go the other way, completely over the top smiley and soft voice saying “the thing is he’s safer walking this way and it’s important for maintaining his independence since he is so vulnerable to people with poorer judgement or education”, basically max passive aggression.

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That is a good idea, and yes, I imagine it was :( It's a term I've not heard for a long time though.
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Patienceisntvirtuous · 23/03/2022 21:49

@Hollywolly1

Ths man doesn't even do anything wrong,they just picking on him because of the way he walks🤣 exactly how bonkers are they but I do think they live very sad shallow lives whereas the nan always has a smile on his face
True! I like to think he's happy but who knows, maybe it makes him happy seeing people and this is what happens behind his back-which is sad.
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Patienceisntvirtuous · 23/03/2022 21:57

@Hobbes8

Do they object to anyone else walking down their road or just him? I’ve no idea of the legalities - there’s a couple of private roads near my house which I occasionally walk down and it’s never occurred to me that anyone might object.
It's a good point- but I don't think I've ever seen anyone else walking this way. It's in a part of the village that means unless you live on the adjoining streets and for some reason want to walk to the other adjoining street, you'd have no need to really, it doesn't link to anywhere so I guess doesn't get much foot traffic at all. Of course people may use this route and I've just not seen them or not paid any mind to it though.

MN-I apologise and understand your edits-is it still acceptable to use 'idiot' in general? As the word has links to early medicine meaning a serious disability.

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mum11970 · 23/03/2022 22:11

Is it sign posted as a private road or is it an unadopted road your neighbours like to think is private? Mind you, even if it is a private road your neighbours are arseholes.

Patienceisntvirtuous · 23/03/2022 22:22

I remember when I bought the house I was told it was private. I could rummage thru my deeds/document to have a look but I've never been very concerned either way so I'm not 100% sure.

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Phlewf · 23/03/2022 22:52

Thanks @LivMumsnet for editing not just whooshing my whole post. Sorry if I’ve ranted about mass deletions in the past

TattiePants · 23/03/2022 22:56

Your neighbours sounds disgusting and please don’t stay silent if they say anything in the future.

I live on a private road, it’s a bit of a quirk in my part of the city as there are quite a few private roads. We have signs telling drivers not to enter (plenty people ignore them so they can drop their little darlings closer to school). However, if we ever tried to restrict access to pedestrians I don’t think we’d get very far and someone could rightly challenge us.

HopefulProcrastinator · 24/03/2022 04:10

Even if your road is private, there may be an established public right of way over the land for pedestrians. It's notoriously difficult to restrict pedestrians through anywhere so I'd be surprised if it was 100% private.

Could be worth arming yourself with the facts about your road before challenging in a firm but not antagonistic way with your neighbours that...

  1. He's legally entitled to walk that route
  2. Clearly he feels safe doing so, why make your road known as anything other than a safe place in the local community

Aside from that, I'd definitely be wary about my interactions with people who fly their arsehole flag so proudly.

PinkSyCo · 24/03/2022 09:14

Ugh your neighbours are vile bullies. Tell them to leave the poor bloke alone. Someone needs to shame these idiots for their behaviour, and who cares if people like them like you or not.

Patienceisntvirtuous · 27/03/2022 05:45

hopefulprocrastinator I've looked at my deeds now (it was a boring shift at work!) and yes it IS a private road, but it is also a public right of way. :)

I am going to say something next time I see anyone to chat to-which should be soon, especially with the weather picking up, people are around and about more again.

I've seen the man in question yesterday lunchtime ish, walking to the shops as he usually does and nobody bothered him. I was bringing the washing in and said a bit louder than usual cheery hello and he said a smiley hello back. I must admit I felt a bit more zeal than usual, looking about to make sure nobody was about to do/say anything to him!

I think I am going to say something to the lines of what @Phlewf suggested. I definitely think it requires an additional head tilt, though Wink :)

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Patienceisntvirtuous · 27/03/2022 05:48

@PinkSyCo

Ugh your neighbours are vile bullies. Tell them to leave the poor bloke alone. Someone needs to shame these idiots for their behaviour, and who cares if people like them like you or not.
Very good point of course. But (I hate there being a 'but') that could go one of two ways for me, couldn't it. I'm very happy here, and being ostracised in a smallish community wouldn't do me any good at all :(

Of course I won't standby and let anything happen and I will definitely stand up for him, but I am going to have to be a bit careful about it methinks. As I've said, it was a surprise. Everyone around here up until this occurrence has appeared nothing but pleasant! :(

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Bogeyes · 27/03/2022 07:26

Is this some sort of witch hunt? You may be next on the list!

Phlewf · 27/03/2022 10:39

@Patienceisntvirtuous you’re right, a head tilt will really sell it, no point in being subtle. Honestly though it’s likely your neighbours will change their think and become better people, but they probably don’t want to look like a bastard in front of people. I’m rooting for you, let’s all call out shitty behaviour when we see it.

nevertrustaherdofcows · 27/03/2022 11:10

Does you little road lead past a church and a churchyard by any chance?

InTheCludgie · 27/03/2022 11:20

Good for you OP, your neighbours sound like a right shower of shits. Hopefully seeing you advocate for this man will teach the narrow minded fuckers a bit of humility.

My neighbour was telling me recently that the family who lived in my house over 20 years previously had a son with ASD and two of the other neighbours were horrible to him because he was 'different'. This wasn't even an adult, he was a child and the neighbours were grown women! I now look at these people in a completely different light. I may be sensitive in this regard though as I have a child with ADHD!

Patienceisntvirtuous · 27/03/2022 20:40

@nevertrustaherdofcows

Does you little road lead past a church and a churchyard by any chance?
No, but a nearby one does. Not one of my neighbours are you Wink
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Patienceisntvirtuous · 27/03/2022 20:56

@Phlewf yes, It's all of our responsibility isn't it.

@InTheCludgie It's so common isn't it really.How grown adults think It's okay to be like this is beyond me.

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HomeHomeInTheRange · 27/03/2022 21:26

OP, I would just keep pushing back with your own POV but without giving them a mouthful. Prepare a few phrases : well it’s a public right of way, I don’t think we have the right to ban people because we don’t like the way they walk! / he’s going no harm, live and let live / ouch, that’s a very rude name to call someone, isn’t it? / hmmm, can’t say I agree with you there / etc.

HiJenny35 · 27/03/2022 21:47

I don't know what they were calling him as its edited out but sure its not appropriate. The only thing I would say is maybe ask first if they have any reason for being so dreadful to him, we had a situation where a local person groped, screamed at, chased females, intimated etc, he has mental health issues and after some time away has been returned to his mother's home locally. People who have been around years know what he can be like when he comes off his meds, people new to the area don't. Could there be any issues you aren't aware of?

MessedOfTimes · 27/03/2022 23:04

Hey OP, just wanted to say thank you for your advocacy and general decency. My training is in Disability Care, and I’ve spent my life around people with disabilities, particularly in the area of mental health, and learning and neurological disabilities. It’s appalling to know that some people still carry on with such disgusting attitudes. But also heartening to see that people like you won’t stand idly by in the face of it. It mightn’t seem like much, but your reactions to this are hugely important to the quality of life and sense of community for some of our most vulnerable. Keep it up. We need more people like you ♥️

Patienceisntvirtuous · 28/03/2022 06:09

@HiJenny35 it isn't impossible and it had crossed my mind..however I think it would be very unusual if so, for them to not have mentioned this to me at some point before now?

They all gave the impression that they've not known of him for long, ie since he began using this street as his route. I can ask though.

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